Posted: Aug 02, 2019 6:13 pm
ughaibu wrote:The argument we're discussing here says nothing about free will, it demonstrates that the contention that all human behaviour is entailed by laws of chemistry/physics is false.zoon wrote:Yes, I’ve lost the thread of ughaibu’s argument altogether here. I would have expected free will to make recording at least potentially less accurate, given that the recorder is presumably free to put down whatever they want.
Understanding thermal noise is an outcome of understanding the laws of chemistry and physics. It's not clear that you understand any laws of chemistry and physics. It's prominent among the reasons that we cannot repeat even fairly simple measurements and produce results identical to a previous trial, except by chance and by limitations of the precision of the apparatus. Unless you finally get the fuck out of your armchair and learn something, instead of just sitting there, waving your arms like a madman, you might be able to contribute to a useful discussion of some topic, including whether the laws of chemistry and physics entail free will. All that thermal noise need mean to you is not that free will is demonstrated, but that determinism can't be established. You can tell zoon that all that quantum-indeterminacy-in-the-brain shit she likes to get into is swamped by thermal noise, which also leads to indeterminacy.
The more your ideology grabs you by the balls, as it so obviously has done, the more you are deluded into thinking that the steadfastness of your opinion is a result of the strength of your will. Come on, ughaibu: Make me take you seriously by telling me all about peer pressure, groupthink, and ideology. Be sure to include some psychobabble, which is what you always turn to in a pinch.