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romansh wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote: And what you're doing is hunting around for causes.

I think you are wrong there. I don't have to hunt for them, in that I understand that they are there.

Cito di Pense wrote: That's fine when you can keep track of all the billiard balls and their collisions, which are deemed perfectly elastic, but that is only a model.

Do you think you are the only one here that recognizes that all we have as you say only a model?

Cito di Pense wrote:When we can't do that, we fall back on colloquial language, and probabilities, and are not fussing with metaphysical causes. You seem to prefer going down the hole of determinism, instead of down the hole of freedom. It's still just a big hole filled with bullshit and populated by dichotomists who imagine they're the little lights in the darkness, thinking they might be smart enough to carry an argument, when it's just the torch they're carrying for their

Well it's better than a sourpuss hole that no polite discussion can escape.