Posted: Dec 21, 2019 11:44 pm
by Destroyer
ughaibu wrote:
Ayn Marx wrote:I find it somewhat amazing these discussion have continued for centuries
There is not now and almost never has been any discussion about whether or not there is free will, demonstrably, we have free will.
The questions about free will that philosophers discuss are mainly these: could there be free will in a determined world? which, if any, notion of free will suffices for moral/legal responsibility? which theory of free will is correct/best?


No. Demonstrably we do not have free will. The issue is really whether or not the universe is deterministic. Localised mass clearly follow deterministic rules, whereas quantum particles do not. It is only because quantum particles are fundamental that logical assumptions are made about the universe being indeterminate - and therefore subject to free will. However, try telling that to localised mass and the fact that, demonstrably, it is deterministic - therefore no free will.