Posted: May 23, 2020 5:11 am
I was in talks with a DemSocial on discord. he was talking about Stinter's egoism. I chimed in with my def of spook and he argued for social constructs because it's natural. the main discourse is was about how emotions, logic, and reasoning interplay with another. my argument is that, as people are emotional innately and thus everything has some emotion in it. you can't be 100% rational, logical and stoic all the time. it's an Enlightenment fantasy. his was to go on his idiosyncratic definitions and distinctions which in hindsight I didn't even disagree on. they were about "rational/logical emotional separation", etc, and worrying to death about finding out that scientists and science and be a bit subjective and emotional sometimes, and that realization will lead us to primitivism. that despite a lot of advancement in the pre-scientific era.
he strawmaned me too. like when I was on about "hey, your scientist stoic logical ubermensch that puts out pure logic and reason? that's kind of fantastical." and he was like "so you're saying math isn't 100% rational?" no I fucking didn't. math is rational. math is reason. it's a human creation, but a really good one. like you know science? I just sometimes think that it can be subjective. like you know reason and logic? what is reasonable, rationally, and logical changes from person to person. because of education, experience, and biases. it's based on standards. which are created. of course what I got was incredulity. for simple observation, at least to me.
the dude wasn't a dick. I just think he's a bit stupid. even in hindsight, if I was talking about emotional control, there's evidence to suggest that emotions, their expression, and the reason why they are expressed anyway, is based on past experiences. it's called the theory of constructed emotion. it's quite reveling stuff, to be honest. https://fortelabs.co/blog/how-emotions-are-made/
he strawmaned me too. like when I was on about "hey, your scientist stoic logical ubermensch that puts out pure logic and reason? that's kind of fantastical." and he was like "so you're saying math isn't 100% rational?" no I fucking didn't. math is rational. math is reason. it's a human creation, but a really good one. like you know science? I just sometimes think that it can be subjective. like you know reason and logic? what is reasonable, rationally, and logical changes from person to person. because of education, experience, and biases. it's based on standards. which are created. of course what I got was incredulity. for simple observation, at least to me.
the dude wasn't a dick. I just think he's a bit stupid. even in hindsight, if I was talking about emotional control, there's evidence to suggest that emotions, their expression, and the reason why they are expressed anyway, is based on past experiences. it's called the theory of constructed emotion. it's quite reveling stuff, to be honest. https://fortelabs.co/blog/how-emotions-are-made/