Posted: Jan 12, 2021 5:36 am
by Spearthrower
Frozenworld wrote:
That is not true at all. What I am trying to do is see whether any of the stuff I have cited is actually support for the position I am trying to disprove, or at the very least weaken.

Sorry FW - I simply don't believe you.

Frozenworld wrote:That entire shroomery thread to me seemed to raise strong points for solipsism and I don't have the knowledge or even capacity to string together a rebuttal to any of them.

If that's true, and you don't have the knowledge of capacity to string together a rebuttal, then why would you have the knowledge of capacity to assess that it has 'strong points for solipsism'? These are mutually contradictory points.

Frozenworld wrote:I've already posted quotes from the threads so people don't have to read it all, but I'm still not seeing how others aren't convinced by them when I am.

And here we've gone all the way round the merry-go-round again.

You're just asking about X.
You want other people to rebut X.
You're convinced by X.

Whichever way you slice this, you are the proponent and it is down to you - in a discussion format - to take the affirmative and make a coherent argument that can either be convincing or be rebutted.

Further, if you were actually genuinely interested, you would be taking note of the rebuttals offered and questioning them to try to understand. Instead, you're ignoring the majority of replies and then simply tossing in another wall of text written by someone else which you say is relevant but which appears to be just a pile of nonsense to the point it could well have been generated by a bot.

There is not one single cogent point amidst those written links you've sent, and the 40+ minute long videos (at least the parts you've eventually pointed to when asked to specify) don't contain an argument for solipsism at all.

I don't believe you're engaging in good faith argument. ... 4f194afbc9

What’s a bad faith argument?

The hallmark of a bad-faith argument is that it disguises the core point of a debate rather than addressing issues, beliefs, and values head-on.

Bad faith arguments aren’t “real” positions; they’re proxy positions people take for rhetorical purposes.