Posted: Feb 28, 2021 3:30 am
Spearthrower wrote:Solipsism now equals nihilism because... apparently because if you craft a declarative sentence, then the resulting meaning of that sentence magically becomes true - convincing, logically coherent supporting statements be damned!
Already explained why it leads to nihilism.
BlackBart wrote:Frozenworld wrote:
Missing the point entirely.
Look who's talking.It's not that you are special, that's not even close.
Oh dear.It's that you cannot verify an external reality or others.
Yeees, I know how solipsism works...There would be no point in living if solipsism were true because nothing you do would matter. It would impact no one because there are no others or even other minds, there is nothing to learn, nothing to do. Everything becomes meaningless.
Does it? See, this this is where your reasoning falls apart like a clown car, because you cry 'OMFG! There's no-one else!! Nobody else exists' and you stop thinking. You don't carry on wondering... Why is there only me? Am I unique? The only intelligence in existence? And if I am, where is all this VR data coming from? Did something else generate it? Or did I? And if I generated it myself, why am I not lying on a beach instead of wringing my hands in my Mother's basement? So, if I'm not having a good time of it, is it some kind of test? Who's testing me? Is there some kind 'outside' I'm not privy to... and on it goes...
No, you don't think all that, your angst overrides your curiosity and imagination. And that is where your problem lies.
None of that really matters as far as the "forever alone" part.
I mean....
I dont think that solipsism states that nothing exists besides our consciousness, it merely states that we can never know anything about what exists outside our consciousness because we will never experience anything other than our consciousness. which means there is no reason to believe other people are actually other minds, or to believe that the external world's contents will 'continue to exist' when we are not experiencing them.
but solipsism does not deny that what we are experiencing is caused by external ripples.. this is still within possibility. It can simply never be determined true or not.
solipsism is logically flawless.. but it is also uninformative in the strictest sense of the word.