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Frozenworld wrote:

BlackBart wrote:You'd think the one consciousness in the Universe could avoid being made to look stupid by an NPC.

How did Wagner's ring cycle come into existence if there was no Wagner to write it, FW? What was the mechanism involved in paraphrasing the Norse sagas it's based on? How were the chord progressions and tempo etc. autonomously generated? And how would that explanation be any more parsimonious than a bloke named Wagner wrote it?

Same question goes for the millions of other books, pieces of music, and works of art automatically generated for the off-chance you might get around to using them before you puff out of existence?

On the subject of puffing out of existence, still waiting for an answer on the death thing. Not sure why - if yours is the most parsimonious scenario, it'll be a no-brainer to explain.

Edit: Come to think of it, how did this post come to be, FW? Did you write it?

I think there was a response to all that by the solipsists that addresses it.

I'm not asking other solipsists (lol) I'm asking you.

It's still saying that you don't have knowledge of everything made and neither do you need it.

How very fucking convenient.

If it is all in your own head and you are making this, you'd be omitting things from your knowledge to give the appearance of ignorance.

What the fuck for? Who the fuck would you be trying to fool?

Again all you can know is that you exist for sure, nothing and no one else. I know I wrote my posts but I can't be sure there is a you out there and some part of my mind isn't writing all this to me.

What mind? As your 'mind' is a few pounds of grey matter that only exists in this supposed Matrix, you don't actually have a mind. Unless you're trying to erect a mind that's floating around in a void. Which is basically erecting a deity.

There doesn't need to be a mechanism, since it's existence can't be verified.

You REALLY are not very good at this are you? Unless you're positing everything popped into existence by magic then yes, there has to be a mechanism. Trying handwave away gaping holes in your argument is lazy and dishonest.

All I can be sure of is me and nothing else.

Really? How can you be sure of you? Show your working.

It's not something I want to believe but what reason would I have to believe those other people exist and aren't just figments?

A figment of what in what?

Nothing you have said really proves your case and solipsism wrong,

I don't have to - I'm not the one making the claim. You are. So far you've failed pathetically.

I know I've tried that argument already.

No you haven't. You've failed to make any kind of argument. Only vague assertions.

Even our own vision is virtual so how can we claim to know reality: https://www.wired.com/story/the-physics ... ual-world/

Spearthrower has already pull this apart like wet toilet paper.