Posted: Dec 18, 2021 8:01 am
by Frozenworld
Greg the Grouper wrote:
Frozenworld wrote:You talk about unfalsifiable but so is realism.


"But so is realism"?
So you concede that solipsism is unfalsifiable?

Cool, so hey, why don't we talk about a simple point brought up multiple times that you've failed to actually grasp?

Parsimony.

Both of these positions - Solipsism and Realism - would imply that you exist.
This would mean that something can exist. This must necessarily be the case.

So if we already know that existence is a possible state, and we know this because something must already exist, then what principle allows for the existence of yourself, but prevents the existence of other entities besides yourself?


Because unlike everything else I can verify my existence. Everything else I can't. I can't get outside my senses.

Even modern physics points to solipsism:

It's you who is just plain wrong and just doesn't get it. Other minds exist in their own right (superposition obviates the other minds problem) but you can't grasp the idea that you are the creator of those minds in your own solipsistic reality. The idea that you are separate from your constructed so-called external perception is known as naive realism (look it up).

You have shown nothing in any of your comments except a misunderstanding of consciousness. There is only consciousness, there is no requirement for anything to precede it. You have it backwards, the brain is not responsible for consciousness, consciousness creates the brain.

Consciousness is the creative force for all that exists and it's definitely something, not nothing. I agree you can't get something from nothing, therefore there has always been something.

You are laboring under the illusion that consciousness is an emergent epiphenomen of a complex neural network called the brain. Max Planck knew that consciousness is fundamental as do many contemporary physicists (in whose domains you obviously don't travel.)

You have constructed a small box that contains your reality. Perception is reality. Expand your perception and you may understand what modern physics has known for some time now.


Even if you invoke parsimony you still end up at solipsism.