Posted: Jun 20, 2022 5:51 pm
by BWE
jamest wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
BWE wrote:Then again, the parallel postulate seemed to be a law for a long time.

There's another postulate, of course, which is that mathematics can inform philosophy.

Sorry, nope. Belly-button fluff informs philosophy, which is not about assessing and incorporating facts, but is about how to identify when reasoning has failed, and facts just don't help with that. Because: denial. Can I pick 'em, or what?

If we keep contesting philosophical points with facts, we have discovered neither facts nor philosophy, let alone improved them.

Joe Biden is president of the USA.
Bugs Bunny achieved a rank of Master Sergeant in the US marines.

Both facts. Both meaningless/irrelevant from the perspective of contemplating reality with an open mind.

I challenge you to present a list or group of 'facts' (a short list will suffice) which have ANY relevance whatsoever to such an endeavour.

Let me save your head from imploding with the effort, for there's not a single fact about the whole universe which has any such relevance.

You can't just sweep philosophy under the rug on the basis of facts or lack thereof. Have a word with yourself.

This too, seems a caricature of a ridiculous position. Philosophy involves the construction of models. Models without facts as well as facts without models are meaningless.