Posted: Jun 20, 2022 5:54 pm
by BWE
jamest wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
contemplating reality with an open mind

Incidentally, you're saying here that reality is independent of mind.

No, I'm saying that reality is independent of (transcends) facts about our observed universe. That there are no such facts relevant in any endeavour to contemplate reality (try naming one!). Also, that any such endeavour can only proceed upon the basis of reason alone... philosophy. Bottom line:

The ontological value of facts about the observed universe is zero.

Few, seemingly, ever fully realise this fact. A fact not about the world, but about the limits of empirical knowledge. A fact unveiled by reason alone.

The true value of philosophy goes right over most people's head because they have not considered this, or understood it.

Fact, the universe appears to be consistent. Ie logic works. Any model which is not grounded on that fact isn't a model and has no philosophy