Posted: Mar 02, 2014 3:46 am
by TMB
Tuco, you said,

If she was bullied/trolled over net, its not exceptional, is expected, and perhaps she should resist, in the words of the article: come to terms with her own body image. Other celebrities are under similar scrutiny.

I see plenty of the same behaviour at schools so she is not exceptional in that she felt pressure about the way she looked at school. I have teenage kids and most kids appear to be uncertain about their appearance, even those that are judged to be good looking. I recall Cindy Crawford squirming when told bluntly that she should be OK because she was so beautiful. I have seen this happen a few times with celebrities and they always seem uncomfortable when been told directly. Part of this could be the danger of arrogance if they readily acknowledged their superior looks that so many admire and envy, but part must be due to their own uncertainty that it is true. This is not surprising since we rely upon the judgement of others to decide if we are good looking or not. Social standards decide the standard of beauty and are taken along with this. Its optimistic for us to decide if we are good looking regardless of what others think, since the only reason it matters if we are good looking is BEACUSE of what others think. Without the judgement of others our looks would be irrelevant. This is seen by the pathology we see around women and their weight. It appears that regardless of their actual slimness or fatness, most women appear to talk as if they have a weight problem, when outsiders might wonder why they cannot see the problem. The other issue is the toll that advancing years takes on our looks, hence the massive industry in things that make us look younger. This happens regardless of how good looking you are, what sex you are, as you get older the body degenerates, wrinkles, los of muscle tone, so business cashes in on our securities and I have no doubt some of these things work for a while, but eventually we lose the battle.
At the same time, since I know nothing about Rebecca Adlignton, her boyfriend could pressure her or I dunno competitors. So I honestly did not know
what the years of taunting, trolling and cruel quips meant.

Having kids at school and in sport I see plenty of teenage behaviour. The taunts about looks, clothes, sports and academic performance are part and parcel of kids lives, however much we try and reduce bullying. Girls are better at more subtle bullying, while boys are more direct and obvious which means boys are easier to control and reduce such behaviour.

I understood this part, kind of, but then the link to performing on the same level as her counterparts escaped me, same as this part: If men were to be subject to the same pressures about their appearance as women are .. hence: Who will put them under such pressure? Because if its only hypothetical, then there are only hypothetical answers - anything.

My observation is the that the harshest critics of womens looks are other women, men seem to miss much of the subtle detail, however men certainly appreciate women that look young, healthy and well proportioned. I would say that women take much of the accessories to extreme lengths as an over reaction. Men seem less aware of what women are wearing, what shoes they have on, what handbags they carry etc, while they certainly notice short skirt lengths and cleavage. Women notice and judge the finer detail and are in competition to look their best.