Posted: Jul 23, 2015 5:15 pm
by Forty Two
Sendraks wrote:
Forty Two wrote:The topic is whether sexism against men exists..


Actually, the topic is "are individual women sexist against men"


No. I created the topic. It's "Sexism against men -- does it exist?" I.e., does sexism against men exist?

Sendraks wrote:

as opposed to the potential broader application of the topic title which is "does sexism against men existence in the same entrenched cultural way that it exists against other groups."
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No -- it's "does sexism against men exist." The feminist perspective as advanced by Sarkeesian and that ilk is that sexism against men does not exist. They don't argue that it does not exist in the same entrenched cultural way. They say it does not exist.

Sendraks wrote:

The answer to the first is yes, as evidenced by the article, although this is an oversimplification (hardly surprising given the link is an article from the Daily Mail, a rag largely read by fuckwits and the ignorant) of Mustafa's position.


Mustafa made a lengthy speech which is also available on youtube and she specifically explained her postion.


She refutes her sexism and racism by saying it's impossible for her to be racist and sexist.

Sendraks wrote:
Although I don't think she's set out her stall very well, the reality is that CIS White Men are unused to having doors closed to them in society.


Of course they are. They've been excluded from women's groups and "women only" establishments, and that continues to this day.

Sendraks wrote:

My interpretation of her position
You don't have to interpret. You can listen to her speech.

Sendraks wrote:
is that a) it is hilarious to see the overreaction of MRA types when they are barred from somewhere
It's an overreaction to call out the DIVERSITY OFFICER on a college campus for discriminating against a racial group and a sex? And, not only doing so, but stating unequivocally that doing so is the right thing to do?

Sendraks wrote:
and b) they make a completely false equivalency that what is happening to men under those circumstances is exactly the same sexism that women experience. Clearly it isn't and they miss the point by a country mile.


Well, who made that false equivalency?

Sexism against men is not "exactly the same" as what women experience, but it's just as bad.