Posted: Apr 08, 2020 1:02 pm
by Spearthrower
Keep It Real wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:Perhaps there are more male leaders largely because males tend to be more inclined to seek leadership and/or are simply generally better at it, as with chess and drum and bass producer professionals?



Are you really, really sure - pinky swear - that this is a serious thread?

If it is - why did you write this?


Yes, I'm sure (see "airstrike fatality" in OP) - the reason I wrote that...ummm, because...thoughts in my brain? Misplaced and erroneous thoughts, quite possibly, granted, especially RE my bold. The "inclination" bit seems to meet with some agreement so far however, and if the Record Breakers theme tune is to be believed "dedication's what you need (if you wanna be a record breaker (succesful - ed)) - and how can one have dedication in the cause of achieving a leadership role if one is not inclined to seek it.


Well, ask yourself some questions.

Who defines what leadership is?
Who decides what qualities leadership represents?
In what contexts is leadership conceived?
Who is being led?

Or think about other forms of bigotry, for example black emancipation in the U.S. - for over a century, african americans had been denied education - even basic literacy - self-ownership, income, opportunities, and freedom... so when the idea comes up that perhaps they shouldn't be owned as slaves, plenty of people within the system suggested it was for their own good because they clearly weren't capable of managing on their own being unable to read or write, being poor, and not having had responsibilities for their own well-being within the previous systems. Similarly, early 20th century studies about comparative intelligence routinely rated african americans as being of lower intelligence than whites, ignoring that the tests used to evaluate intelligence were the kind of tests white people were familiar with from the education system they'd had from early childhood, while african americans had had no such prior experience, let alone a generational cultural expectation of education, freedom, responsibility etc.

Perhaps little girls in the UK today are told they can be anything they want to be, but it wasn't true of the preceding generations which are still alive. Even my ultra-progressive, intellectual high-school Head-Master held an assembly where he talked about women's rights and the importance of equality in society, then offered a prize if anyone could answer the question he posed (a challenge he set each week with a Mars bar as a prize) - what one job can't a woman do? I thought I was assured that Mars bar with the answer that the one job a woman can't do is 'no job' and thereby was sorely disappointed - not from missing out on the Mars bar but with him - when he said I was wrong and the one job a woman can't do is be the Pope. Even something forward thinking like him was susceptible to obvious patriarchal bollocks.