Posted: Jun 25, 2019 10:07 am
by Spearthrower
Cito di Pense wrote:
romansh wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
Ask it another way: what's the energy gradient inherent in the system of a deck of cards? Where's the disequilibrium?

For the purposes of this discussion the "disequilibrium" is in the sorter and shuffler.

And your point would be? It's already been mentioned that each sorting of the deck is equally probable. You're stuck on the notion that there is only one sorting that is 'ordered' according to the definitions of suit and rank, and that's completely arbitrary. Every other sorting of the deck is just a permutation of the order. To render it in the "balls and urns" formalism, there are 52 urns containing one ball each and no empty urns. The balls are distinguishable but the urns are not, unless the urns are labeled. In physical systems, energy levels are populated or they are not.

Yep, a directed outcome; the 'ordered' deck being suits and numbers according to an essentially arbitrary system of symbols of human shorthand.