Posted: Sep 24, 2018 2:40 am
by truelgbt
Fenrir wrote:Excluding any molecule known to be associated with life would be self defeating, as it would, you know, remove all molecules associated with life, making the biogenesis of said life rather problemmatic.


Methane and ammonia are not just "molecules" associated with life like water or nitrogen or hydrogen but products directly associated with living things like bacteria, thus methane and ammonia are actually byproducts of DNA, not just water molecules which all of life needs, for example.

You are confusing two different things:
1) molecules needed for life (e.g. h20) and...
2) actual byproducts of DNA like methane and ammonia.

If you want to add molecules needed to sustain life (e.g. h20) to an 'origin of life' experiment, I am in total agreement with it.

However, add an actual byproduct or product of life itself (methane or ammonia), and that is called "stacking the deck' or "planting evidence" in my book and is a very UNconvincing experiment. Be convinced if you want, as I'm sure many people such as yourself are, but I need a hell of a lot more to convince me. I remain skeptical of such so called 'experiments' which use products of DNA itself.

Who knows, maybe next time those clowns might as well just introduce some DNA and see what happens. It'll undoubtedly garner lots of accolades, lol.