Posted: Oct 26, 2016 6:13 pm
by purplerat
NamelessFaceless wrote:
purplerat wrote:
NamelessFaceless wrote:I'm having a hard time understanding why so many people would follow someone who is clearly a psychopath. But then there was Saddam Hussein, so WTH do I know. :dunno:

He keeps them safe and well fed/supplied.


Well, I guess kind of, but not really. I can see this as an argument for keeping the Governor. Most of the people of Woodbury were blissfully ignorant of what he did when they weren't around. Everyone in Negan's group, AFAICT, all have to participate in the brutality in order to eat and "stay safe." I'm not sure how one can feel safe when they're constantly having to fight.

Woodbury occurred much earlier when people were less accustomed to the new world of the walking dead. After a couple of years many people have likely resigned themselves to the fact that the world is shit and that it isn't going to get better so they do what they have to survive. It's not even like there aren't real world examples of societies or large groups doing shitty things or following a terrible leader because it was the best option.

As for always having to fight, that's not really true. At least not fighting other survivors. Obviously being well armed and capable of killing has some real benefits in a world overrun by zombies. And it's not like there really is an option not to fight to survive when it comes to the reanimated dead.
NamelessFaceless wrote:
purplerat wrote:
Plus keep in mind that it was Ricks Group who started killing them first. It's not hard to imagine how the Saviors see Ricks group as the bad guys the same way we see Negan.


But recall that Negan's group had already tried to rob Darryl, Abraham and Sasha. When you live that life you have to expect people to defend themselves and even retaliate. I can't imagine any of the Saviors would consider themselves innocent.

Disclaimer: I haven't read the comic books.

I doubt anybody considers themselves innocent. But Rick basically took a contract to kill these people and has already started hunting them down. That's well beyond a random clash or robbery gone wrong so it's not hard to imagine how people would rally against Rick's group knowing he would just as soon gun them all down if the roles were reversed.