Posted: May 05, 2019 7:01 pm
That bit was fine, I agree.
The time travel rules... not so much. I have no idea why they even bothered setting them out only to immediately break them. They specified that they could not go back and kill baby Thanos before he ever snapped his fingers because it wouldn't work, then ultimately they took Thanos out of the timeline before he snapped his fingers and killed him. Literally the exact thing they said they couldn't do.
I suppose for the sake of consistency one could assume that Thanos and his army (even the dead ones) were not in fact killed, but sent back in time by the snap with their memories erased, but this would also have to apply to Loki (who escaped), Stark (who did not remember almost having a heart attack), Thor (who did not remember Stark almost having a heart attack), Rogers (who did not remember fighting himself) and so on. That would work, I guess, except they didn't show it and it would mean they can't bring Loki or Gamora back in the next film. However you look at it Gamora must be just as dead as Black Widow, according to the rules they described.
Of course if the stones could allow them to tinker with their own memories to circumvent the rules, then there are other ways they could undo the snap anyway, because they could just create the psychological conditions and memories required to want to go back and stop Thanos without any of the events actually having happened, which totally unwinds the constraints as well.
Not to mention that the plan of getting the gauntlet to the van therefore could not work as it would leave Thanos stranded in the future and unable to perform the actions which led them to travel back in time, which re-opens all the questions of why Marvel didn't just fly off with it. And never mind why it took them so long to realise they could get more particles, or why they wasted their spares on sending multiple people on some of the missions and an extra test flight, why they ran all the missions concurrently, each requiring 2 particles, and why they didn't send the thief capable of making himself essentially invisible on all the missions in a round robin requiring only 1 particle per mission and a single return trip, I assumed all of that was just rule of cool.
I should add that none of this bothered me in any way, shape or form. By and large I'm not watching a comic book film for logical consistency. I just found the film in need of about an hour of editing between the 0:20 mark and the 2:00 mark.
PS: Also Korg, Miek and that Valkyrie from Thor: Ragnarok were scandalously underused. Korg MVP.
The time travel rules... not so much. I have no idea why they even bothered setting them out only to immediately break them. They specified that they could not go back and kill baby Thanos before he ever snapped his fingers because it wouldn't work, then ultimately they took Thanos out of the timeline before he snapped his fingers and killed him. Literally the exact thing they said they couldn't do.
I suppose for the sake of consistency one could assume that Thanos and his army (even the dead ones) were not in fact killed, but sent back in time by the snap with their memories erased, but this would also have to apply to Loki (who escaped), Stark (who did not remember almost having a heart attack), Thor (who did not remember Stark almost having a heart attack), Rogers (who did not remember fighting himself) and so on. That would work, I guess, except they didn't show it and it would mean they can't bring Loki or Gamora back in the next film. However you look at it Gamora must be just as dead as Black Widow, according to the rules they described.
Of course if the stones could allow them to tinker with their own memories to circumvent the rules, then there are other ways they could undo the snap anyway, because they could just create the psychological conditions and memories required to want to go back and stop Thanos without any of the events actually having happened, which totally unwinds the constraints as well.
Not to mention that the plan of getting the gauntlet to the van therefore could not work as it would leave Thanos stranded in the future and unable to perform the actions which led them to travel back in time, which re-opens all the questions of why Marvel didn't just fly off with it. And never mind why it took them so long to realise they could get more particles, or why they wasted their spares on sending multiple people on some of the missions and an extra test flight, why they ran all the missions concurrently, each requiring 2 particles, and why they didn't send the thief capable of making himself essentially invisible on all the missions in a round robin requiring only 1 particle per mission and a single return trip, I assumed all of that was just rule of cool.
I should add that none of this bothered me in any way, shape or form. By and large I'm not watching a comic book film for logical consistency. I just found the film in need of about an hour of editing between the 0:20 mark and the 2:00 mark.
PS: Also Korg, Miek and that Valkyrie from Thor: Ragnarok were scandalously underused. Korg MVP.