Posted: Feb 22, 2014 11:45 am
Thommo wrote:UndercoverElephant wrote:Thommo wrote:UndercoverElephant wrote:As I said before, I know somebody who was studying for a doctorate in economics when I introduced her to these ideas, and it was news to her. She was shocked.
I was pretty shocked that time you linked it the world ending in, when was it 2012? It must be several years later now and shock has faded to bemusement.
Ha! I never claimed the world would end in 2012 (I could say plenty more about that topic, but this is certainly not the right thread and probably not the right board.) I did say that the economic meltdown of 2008 was the beginning of the end of western civilisation though.
Yes, that was your revised position come 2013 as I recall. Even in 2010 you were still predicting that 2012 would be "an unusual year" in terms of the end of civilisation.
And it was. The importance of certain events - turning points in history - are often only clear when they are firmly in the rear view mirror. Right now a lot of people actually believe we're on the road to recovery from the events of 2008. We are not. A lot of people also believe Peak Oil turned out to be a myth. They're wrong too. There are also, I suspect, quite a large number of people who sense in their gut that something is deeply wrong with the society they belong to, but can't quite put their finger on what it is. Give it a few more years and things will start to become clearer.
The earlier predictions going back to the RDF were even less measured, although digging them out now with the archive not being directly searchable would be a huge pain.
And I have now had 12 years to reflect on what originally happened to me, and what I have learned from the whole series of events that have happened to the world and in my own personal life since then. I'm happy to discuss this if you really want to, but I'd rather not do so in this thread.
But I don't want to debate this, I just think that other members deserve a heads up as to how deep this rabbit hole goes,
That rabbit hole is bottomless.
because it probably isn't readily apparent that your view of banking is intertwined with your supernaturalism and belief that civilisation has already collapsed in line with a Mayan prophecy, at least to the casual observer.
No, there is no connection between those things. My views on banking are to do with empirical facts and things like politics and economics which are entirely unaffected by naturalism/supernaturalism or any of my personal beliefs about those things. And civilisation clearly hasn't collapsed. It is, on the other hand, fatally compromised. But that happened in 2008 rather than 2012. Other things happened in 2012, but I'd really appreciate it if we stick to discussing banking in this thread!