Posted: Mar 17, 2018 3:49 am
jamest wrote:The_Piper wrote:Call it by a different name than art if you want but it's real and will improve with time.
What I said previous was not dictated by what I want, but by reason acknowledging the difference between itself and emotion. Also, how 'pretty' (appealing) something is does not suffice to define it as art. I'm not denying the fact that our ability to program computers gives them improved abilities to impress our eyes; I'm merely denying the propagandistic physicalist bollocks that fails to recognise the meaning of what an artist is, which will never encompass any machine, in principle, for reasons mentioned; thus absolutely denying that any computer will ever be an artist in principle.
Humans made computers, and there's no reason to feel degraded by having computers do work for us. You might say we're clever enough to have "beaten" evolution.
Please do not infer from my posts here that there is a reason for 'humans' to feel degraded. The whole point is that computers should not be 'upgraded', if you get my gist. Ever.
Computers (and technology in general) have the potential both to be the end of us, or to help propel us to the stars, so to speak. We all know this but I like to be understood. I'm glad I'm not the one deciding what to do about potentially dangerous technology, but I'm quite eager to see what we the humans learn next, so I guess I want all of the upgrades we can get. You'll still have your frozen badgers, and I'll have the robotic knee implants that I could really use.
The question of what makes art is always being asked. If a computer makes a song that causes me to have an emotional reaction similar to one brought about by a human song, I don't see the difference between that and art, as it relates to me.
jamest wrote:
Please do not infer from my posts here that there is a reason for 'humans' to feel degraded. The whole point is that computers should not be 'upgraded', if you get my gist. Ever.
No I didn't think you did, KIR seemed to imply that in his comment.
I currantly think the arts (fictional literature; Music; Scupture etc) should be forbidden to AI so that we humans have some permanent avenues for expression/use/productivity/worth.