Posted: Sep 29, 2018 3:55 pm
by Keep It Real
Thommo wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:
Thommo wrote:No, not literally all of them. Just far, far more than you can afford to do so.

You know this because...what...doctors are well known to usually be primarily motivated by financial greed?

Greed implies it's excessive. It isn't.

I suppose that's a matter of opinion. The many luxuries affordable to somebody on a relatively very low income are detailed earlier in the thread.


Thommo wrote:Yes, lots of people travel to work in countries where they get paid more. In fact, without these people the NHS would not have enough doctors, as large numbers of recruits already come for exactly this reason.

The problems surrounding our failure to train enough doctors are clearly more likely to be fixed outside of a global free market.

Thommo wrote:Huge numbers of people move for work every year, including to other countries. Just look at British immigration and emigration figures - it's hundreds of thousands a year.

A smallish proportion of the population then. Jobs are hard to come by - so much so that people often feel they have to leave their home country because being unemployed is not financially feasible (let alone free from stigma). Rise of the machines. Luxury communism is often termed fully automated luxury communism to make that point I feel, although FULL automation should/will probably never happen.

Thommo wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:
Thommo wrote:At present, in reality, Britain isn't producing enough doctors even with the current incentive structure.

Cuba doesn't have that problem.


It does.

https://www.statnews.com/2017/02/08/cub ... meager-pay


No it doesn't - they produce more than enough good doctors - the trouble is they're drastically under paid due to Cuba's premature communist system.


Thommo wrote:Apart from communist countries which existed for large parts of the 20th century, where it was tried.

They were too big, too poor and not tech/infrastructure advanced enough. Apples and oranges.

Thommo wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:
Thommo wrote:For the record, a typical doctor is not paid a six figure salary in the UK.

Yeh, I know, and if they were paid 1.5 times as much as a bin man they'd be on 47kpa.


I don't think binmen make that much actually.

Read the thread please. 32kpa is the mean income and it has been suggested that bin men should earn around that amount.

Thommo wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:
Thommo wrote:There's also the secondary problem of what happens to economies that do not even strive to allocate resources efficiently, in accordance with the value they present to society.

They wouldn't be full of chuggers, PPI and doubleglazing cold callers etc ad infinitum. Newsflash - many desires are not rational or advisable. Market failures 101.


Be that as it may, central planning has failed far worse, far more often, wherever it has been applied.


Central planning is in effect already in the UK in many ways, and needn't be in a dirty way if lux com phased in. Also, apples and oranges. I mean they didn't even have the internet.