laklak wrote:Does he make money out of this? Is it that easy?

Maybe not. 2.25k subscribers, but not really very many views. Only one of his clips is in the five digit range. Another 64 with four digits, most of them in the lower half. The rest attracted a few hundred.

JustStarDust wrote:Yes, believe it or not, people interpret things differently.

Yes and, believe it or not, people's interpretations can be objectively wrong.

You just want me to do your homework or something?

You're making the claim that this guy is worth anyone's time. It's your burden of proof, do your homework and show it. Pointing to a video and drooling does not make your case.

He has a blackboard for a reason.

That's what you claim, anyway. What you show, however...

How much have you watched so far? Do I really have to repeat what he says & risk getting it wrong?

If you don't even understand it well enough to get it right, then why are you spending so much of your energy promoting it?

If you have an interest in physics then you might be able to interpret what he says, better then I can.

Why don't you get familiar with physics first so you don't have to rot your brain with this crap?

But I can only doubt that you've listened or seen his beliefs, theories, etc. Not that it means much. Geez, chill out mang.

You don't have to listen to every fuckwit on youtube that claims they have the answers. They're dime a dozen and they've got people like you shilling for them. No thanks, I'll stick to the actual science with results behind it.

DevEO wrote:

JustStarDust wrote:Welcome to the forum Dev.
DraftScience doesn't have a cult. Stop making things up.

I define a 'cult' as

Oh ok. Next time I'll have to read your mind then.. :/

laklak wrote:Does he make money out of this? Is it that easy?

I need to get a youtube channel.

It's much easier to review trending movies. I've seen some people start off with only a few subs to over 100k within a few months.

laklak wrote:Does he make money out of this? Is it that easy?

I need to get a youtube channel.

Man, there’s always rubes out there ready to be fleeced. It’s how shamans and witch doctors got started. Now you have televangelists, life “coaches”, gurus, doomsday cultists, crystal healers, astrologists, tarot readers, fortune tellers, snake oil salesmen, UFOlogists, pseudoscience whack jobs, the list goes on and on. It’s a billion dollar, global industry.

There’s a sucker born every minute. Or as the old proverb has it, “A fool and his money are soon parted.”

Blackadder wrote:

laklak wrote:Does he make money out of this? Is it that easy?

I need to get a youtube channel.

Man, there’s always rubes out there ready to be fleeced. It’s how shamans and witch doctors got started. Now you have televangelists, life “coaches”, gurus, doomsday cultists, crystal healers, astrologists, tarot readers, fortune tellers, snake oil salesmen, UFOlogists, pseudoscience whack jobs, the list goes on and on. It’s a billion dollar, global industry.

There’s a sucker born every minute. Or as the old proverb has it, “A fool and his money are soon parted.”

Are you suggesting that someone in the forum, make a YouTube channel, and lie or misguide people for money? (I know you're not really, but your comment could be seen as that. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, as I can only assume that you've never lied, or misguided people of anything. But, if certain things are proven to be true - you wont even acknowledge it, ignore the science, and continue to misrepresent things based on very old accusations.)

Plus it's hard to take you seriously when I know Black adder, TV show is a comedy. 'Laughter is the best medicine' as they say.

Troll.

JustStarDust wrote:Are you suggesting that someone in the forum, make a YouTube channel, and lie or misguide people for money?

No I'm not suggesting that Laklak do that.

JustStarDust wrote: (I know you're not really, but your comment could be seen as that

Only by someone who doesn't understand humour.

JustStarDust wrote: But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt,

Gee thanks.

JustStarDust wrote: as I can only assume that you've never lied, or misguided people of anything.

I've never lied or misguided people in order to cheat them out of their money, no.

JustStarDust wrote:But, if certain things are proven to be true - you wont even acknowledge it, ignore the science, and continue to misrepresent things based on very old accusations.)

I have no idea what this word salad means. If you are claiming that I dismiss genuine scientific evidence and continue to believe something that is manifestly wrong, you don't know me. Those forum members who have been around here longer than five minutes and know my posting history would confirm how far from reality that caricature is.

JustStarDust wrote:Plus it's hard to take you seriously when I know Black adder, TV show is a comedy. 'Laughter is the best medicine' as they say.

Well done for knowing it's a comedy. You may not know that sarcasm is a central element of its comedy and is something I use frequently. If you did know this fact, then you would not have needed to ask your first question.

And laughter is not the best medicine. The best medicine is found in medical facilities. Laughter is however a very effective weapon against hypocrisy, logical absurdities and evidence-free guff.

mmmh, if that guy is spouting his word salad for money, shouldn't it be called Graft science?

Drop the "science" from whatever it's called.

newolder wrote:Drop the "science" from whatever it's called.

And the second letter in the first word.

Blackadder wrote:If you are claiming that I dismiss genuine scientific evidence and continue to believe something that is manifestly wrong, you don't know me. Those forum members who have been around here longer than five minutes and know my posting history would confirm how far from reality that caricature is.

Oh good.

And sorry I haven't read everyone's post yet... I'm not going at this full time. There's many, obviously.

And now I guess I can't even ask, what previous beliefs did you have & what changed them? Or just 1 if you're cut for time. I'll get around to reading *everything* soon...

JustStarDust wrote:

And sorry I haven't read everyone's post yet... I'm not going at this full time.

If “going at this full time” means “posting” I would disagree as you are racking up quite the post count around here.

If “going at this full time” means “reading, considering, thinking, and thoughtfully and honestly responding” I would most certainly agree.

"Lie" is such a loaded word. "Selective Truth" is better. For example, "I am God, you should listen to me" is selectively true. "I am" is the true part.

JustStarDust wrote:

Blackadder wrote:If you are claiming that I dismiss genuine scientific evidence and continue to believe something that is manifestly wrong, you don't know me. Those forum members who have been around here longer than five minutes and know my posting history would confirm how far from reality that caricature is.

Oh good.

And sorry I haven't read everyone's post yet... I'm not going at this full time. There's many, obviously.

And now I guess I can't even ask, what previous beliefs did you have & what changed them? Or just 1 if you're cut for time. I'll get around to reading *everything* soon...

I don’t expect you to read every post on here. But if you start throwing accusations at people you barely know, expect to be called out on it. That’s all.

It sure would help grasp how this forum works to read a little.

RS

I do read a little. I see people posting topics.

IE, 'General Debunking'. Ok sure. That section is for information on how to generally debunk someone. Even if that name or topic, is actually 'generally debunking' something else. Moderators can move topics all they want. They're the 'judges' here. I post a thing about space science - it gets moved to pseudo science, leading me to assume that, you didn't do any watching or reading? Oh well. That's how this forum 'works'.

Don't evolve into a chicken.

JustStarDust wrote:IE, 'General Debunking'. Ok sure. That section is for information on how to generally debunk someone. Even if that name or topic, is actually 'generally debunking' something else. Moderators can move topics all they want. They're the 'judges' here. I post a thing about space science - it gets moved to pseudo science, leading me to assume that, you didn't do any watching or reading? Oh well. That's how this forum 'works'.

This thread has been moved into the right section. The channel you linked a clip from is pure pseudoscience. I am utterly unsurprised that you ignored this:

DevEO wrote:...he doesn't show a SINGLE mathematical derivation from start to finish. He says outright that math is "trivial" and is for minions.

You know what they say about assumptions...

RS

SuspiciousObservers, was the channel about space science. How was his information, pseudoscience? All he does is report space science. DraftScience, is different.

theropod_V_2.0 wrote:You know what they say about assumptions...

RS

They make an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'mption'