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Expanding earth. Do the continents wind back to a sphere. Yes or No ?

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Re: Expanding earth. Do the continents wind back to a sphere

#11781  Postby Cito di Pense » Dec 21, 2018 9:18 pm

Hardcoreathiest wrote:And may I just say in his defense Mr Hurrell states during his website for many years he has been unsuccessful obtaining peer review.


You're defending an obvious crank. It's not worth any of your time and it certainly isn't worth much of mine. Believe whatever you like. Your impact on intellectual history won't be established here.
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#11782  Postby theropod » Dec 21, 2018 9:44 pm

Interesting endeavor? Fuck me, and no I will not respond beyond this post to anything you post, Hardcoreatheist, much less adhere to your demands.

This thread should be locked. What, this makes about the fifth time I have called for this? Started by a professional-to-be troll, and infested with trolls ever since.

Perhaps we should have a thread about how to make “proper” mud pies?

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#11783  Postby Hardcoreathiest » Dec 21, 2018 9:53 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:

No need to do that HCA. NCGT Journal is a vanity press, and not a legitimate peer-reviewed publication. You've just mistaken a properly typeset document of obscure provenance for a real scientific paper.

http://www.ncgtjournal.com/

That's a link to the homepage of the "journal" where Hurrel "published" his "results".


excuse my awareness. I had not known his Journal was NCGT attempting to save lives.. is this the problem you state ?

Mission Statement
Objectives
The IEVPC has created the following objectives to define the core aspects for the existence and operations of the organization:

a. To create the leading independent science research organization internationally in its fields of study as defined by its mission.
b. To assemble directly and through association, the world’s largest cooperating independent base of experts for the study of earthquakes and volcanoes.
c. To create the most accurate independent capability worldwide for the prediction of earthquakes with notification periods equal to or exceeding one week.
d. To increase the warning time for tsunamis and volcanic eruptions.
e. To increase the global awareness of the hazards of earthquakes and volcanoes.
f. To significantly increase the ability to save lives around the world by providing advance warning of CGE.
g. To provide to its customers the most authoritative, trusted, independent support for planning for CGE.
h. To create a viable, self sustaining, permanent entity in the field of earthquake, tsunami, and volcanic science research.
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#11784  Postby Hardcoreathiest » Dec 21, 2018 9:55 pm

theropod wrote:Interesting endeavor? Fuck me, and no I will not respond beyond this post to anything you post, Hardcoreatheist, much less adhere to your demands.

This thread should be locked. What, this makes about the fifth time I have called for this? Started by a professional-to-be troll, and infested with trolls ever since.

Perhaps we should have a thread about how to make “proper” mud pies?

RS


Apologies.. For your service and patience to the truth of this matter I shall move to the other topic.
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#11785  Postby Hardcoreathiest » Dec 21, 2018 9:59 pm

theropod wrote:Interesting endeavor? Fuck me, and no I will not respond beyond this post to anything you post, Hardcoreatheist, much less adhere to your demands.

This thread should be locked. What, this makes about the fifth time I have called for this? Started by a professional-to-be troll, and infested with trolls ever since.

Perhaps we should have a thread about how to make “proper” mud pies?

RS


. If I can inquire your field to study your own opinion, papers or website on this subject ? A ruse to something. And more justice to the details of this interesting topic ?
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#11786  Postby Cito di Pense » Dec 21, 2018 10:08 pm

Hardcoreathiest wrote:
theropod wrote:Interesting endeavor? Fuck me, and no I will not respond beyond this post to anything you post, Hardcoreatheist, much less adhere to your demands.

This thread should be locked. What, this makes about the fifth time I have called for this? Started by a professional-to-be troll, and infested with trolls ever since.

Perhaps we should have a thread about how to make “proper” mud pies?

RS


. If I can inquire your field to study your own opinion, papers or website on this subject ? A ruse to something. And more justice to the details of this interesting topic ?


Why are you inquiring? How would you verify someone's field of study if you are completely ignorant of the necessary content? Therefore, satisfy your own curiosity and believe what you like. There's no doubt you understand English well enough to comprehend what you're being told, here.

There's no indication that NCGT is taking on the mission of saving lives; anyone can claim to be practicing science in the interest of public good. But there has to be some science, first. The IEVPC is not identified with the purported journal to whose dubious content you have linked.
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#11787  Postby Cito di Pense » Dec 21, 2018 10:15 pm

Hardcoreathiest wrote:
theropod wrote:Interesting endeavor? Fuck me, and no I will not respond beyond this post to anything you post, Hardcoreatheist, much less adhere to your demands.

This thread should be locked. What, this makes about the fifth time I have called for this? Started by a professional-to-be troll, and infested with trolls ever since.

Perhaps we should have a thread about how to make “proper” mud pies?

RS


Apologies.. For your service and patience to the truth of this matter I shall move to the other topic.


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#11788  Postby Hardcoreathiest » Dec 21, 2018 10:17 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
Hardcoreathiest wrote:
theropod wrote:Interesting endeavor? Fuck me, and no I will not respond beyond this post to anything you post, Hardcoreatheist, much less adhere to your demands.

This thread should be locked. What, this makes about the fifth time I have called for this? Started by a professional-to-be troll, and infested with trolls ever since.

Perhaps we should have a thread about how to make “proper” mud pies?

RS


. If I can inquire your field to study your own opinion, papers or website on this subject ? A ruse to something. And more justice to the details of this interesting topic ?


Why are you inquiring? How would you verify someone's field of study if you are completely ignorant of the necessary content? Therefore, satisfy your own curiosity and believe what you like. There's no doubt you understand English well enough to comprehend what you're being told, here.


My mission to action as the famous Carl Jung states.. “Knowledge rests not upon truth alone, but upon error also." We are all but pupils in the foundation of natural laws. The errors are revealed in the debate between oppositions, and each side presents its own warriors to the truth.

we cut a brick we will never see its volume just the surface.

in my very primitive math game, the brick koan must be extended - not only we dont see the volume inside bodies BUT even we will never see their real surface,. Math opens a strange view on world, IF calc is right and my interpretation was correct. Epistemology might go to singularity in real world in any cases. This would be a great flash
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#11789  Postby Hardcoreathiest » Dec 21, 2018 10:18 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
Hardcoreathiest wrote:
theropod wrote:Interesting endeavor? Fuck me, and no I will not respond beyond this post to anything you post, Hardcoreatheist, much less adhere to your demands.

This thread should be locked. What, this makes about the fifth time I have called for this? Started by a professional-to-be troll, and infested with trolls ever since.

Perhaps we should have a thread about how to make “proper” mud pies?

RS


Apologies.. For your service and patience to the truth of this matter I shall move to the other topic.


If your name is really Joe Alan, mine is really Jesus Christ. Nice to meet you.


Gnothi seauton. Recognize yourself - and you will recognize the world. :)
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#11790  Postby Cito di Pense » Dec 21, 2018 10:23 pm

Hardcoreathiest wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
Hardcoreathiest wrote:
theropod wrote:Interesting endeavor? Fuck me, and no I will not respond beyond this post to anything you post, Hardcoreatheist, much less adhere to your demands.

This thread should be locked. What, this makes about the fifth time I have called for this? Started by a professional-to-be troll, and infested with trolls ever since.

Perhaps we should have a thread about how to make “proper” mud pies?

RS


Apologies.. For your service and patience to the truth of this matter I shall move to the other topic.


If your name is really Joe Alan, mine is really Jesus Christ. Nice to meet you.


Gnothi seauton. Recognize yourself - and you will recognize the world. :)


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#11791  Postby Hardcoreathiest » Dec 21, 2018 10:41 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
Eohippus frangipani. Looks like you speak a different language, but it's probably all Greek to me.


The universe does not punish for free interpretations. For my luck.
Best regards.. Joe :shhh:
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#11792  Postby SkyMutt » Dec 21, 2018 11:54 pm

I did a bit of research about the IEVPC. What I found didn't encourage me regarding their credibility. Beyond puff pieces they put out about their supposedly great success at predicting earthquakes, I didn't find much. I did find a story and brief interview with the CEO of this, ah, groundbreaking organization. He's a Florida man.

"Tea Party Welcomes Global Cooling Theorist/Earthquake Predictor John L. Casey" | Broward Palm Beach New Times

Just when you think the Palm Beach County Tea Party can't sink any deeper into the quicksand of gullibility, it brings in another clown act to prove you wrong.

Last time around, it was an uproar over a mythical U.N. plot to subvert local government via mind control. This time, crackpot science is on the menu.

This week's joker is one John L. Casey, president of the Space and Science Research Corp. and CEO of the International Earthquake and Volcano Prediction Center -- both outfits conveniently located in Orlando, just down the road from Disney World.

Casey, with a CV spotty as a case of measles, describes himself as "a former White House space program adviser, consultant to NASA Headquarters, and space shuttle engineer." He claims an M.A. in management from Webster University in St. Louis and a B.A. in physics and mathematics from "JSU" -- whatever and wherever that is.

Claiming to be the "foremost institution in the United States dedicated to communicating the need to prepare for the new cold climate epoch" (a dubious honor), Casey's Space and Science Research Corp. has, according to its website:

led all climate research companies in alerting the White House, Congress, and the maintsream [sic] media to the ill-effects of the next climate change predicted by the SSRC and other international scientists to be decades of potentially dangerous cold weather.


Casey's International Earthquake and Volcano Prediction Center came about, according to the SSRC website:

Because of the respect [Casey] had earned in his climate research in September 2011 he was asked by a group of the world's best geologists in earthquake prediction to bring them together in a new company to help save thousands of lives each year by predicting the most dangerous earthquakes in advance, a never before achieved objective.


[Continues, with Casey explaining why he doesn't publish in actual scientific journals. :)]
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#11793  Postby Hardcoreathiest » Dec 22, 2018 11:23 am

SkyMutt wrote:I did a bit of research about the IEVPC. What I found didn't encourage me regarding their credibility. Beyond puff pieces they put out about their supposedly great success at predicting earthquakes, I didn't find much. I did find a story and brief interview with the CEO of this, ah, groundbreaking organization. He's a Florida man.



And another question i want an answer (i post it to several guys whom i know the smartest ones): what is problem in your interpretation of IEVPC earthquake predictions my friend ? They try to save lives ..yes, a worthy cause ?

http://ievpc.org/prediction-scorecard.html


I am not a fool ...but almost nobody understands why I cannot find source of error in their predictions
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#11794  Postby Hardcoreathiest » Dec 22, 2018 11:29 am

theropod wrote:Interesting endeavor? Fuck me, and no I will not respond beyond this post to anything you post, Hardcoreatheist, much less adhere to your demands.



RS


am not an expert in your field indeed. I have my modest capabilities for a long time and these I understand as such. But from time to to time let me to put just occasional questions to you ? Your publications in the field are numerous yes ? Then i can discuss your answers with an ancient friend of mine ( 71 ys,). He is a retired paleontologist who can surely helps me to understand your great ideas.
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#11795  Postby Yaniv » Dec 23, 2018 6:56 am

The size of earth is balanced by opposing forces; gravity and pressure. In my theory (yaniv-stern.webnode.com) the force of gravity decreases over geological/astronomical time scales and internal pressure pushes the expansion of the earth.
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#11796  Postby LucidFlight » Dec 23, 2018 7:12 am

I can confirm that gravity is decreasing. My weight is down 5 kg this year.
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#11797  Postby BlackBart » Dec 23, 2018 7:15 am

I've observed gravity is increasing. :shifty:
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#11798  Postby LucidFlight » Dec 23, 2018 7:19 am

You might be experiencing a gravitational anomaly.
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#11799  Postby SkyMutt » Dec 23, 2018 7:50 am

Hardcoreathiest wrote:And another question i want an answer (i post it to several guys whom i know the smartest ones): what is problem in your interpretation of IEVPC earthquake predictions my friend ? They try to save lives ..yes, a worthy cause ?

http://ievpc.org/prediction-scorecard.html


I am not a fool ...but almost nobody understands why I cannot find source of error in their predictions


If there were independent confirmation of their self-reported success, that would be a step in the right direction. I have been unable to find any, so perhaps you could help me out. Failing that, I remain skeptical of their claims.

It appears that they've avoided submitting their supposedly life-saving discoveries to the relevant scientific community. The stated reasons for that avoidance are feeble and unconvincing, which is grounds for suspecting the veracity of their reports of their own success.

Does the fact that the CEO of this group was supposedly sought out because of the respect his climate research has earned (research which leads him to claim that the climate is cooling) raise any questions in your mind?
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#11800  Postby aban57 » Dec 23, 2018 12:31 pm

LucidFlight wrote:I can confirm that gravity is decreasing. My weight is down 5 kg this year.


I lost 17. Gravity must be different over here.
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