AIDS is not caused by AIDS, but by chemical weapons
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chairman bill wrote:Firestarter wrote:... To understand the true nature of AIDS it is helpful to distinguish between the 4 separate risk groups for AIDS: ... 4) Africans.
Sounds like racist fuckwittery to me. As for the remainder of the conspiracy theorist bollocks, interspersed with a large helping of pseudoscientific nonsense ...
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Are any of these double blind placebo controlled studies like: 1) the phase III study for AZT (that wasn’t performed before AZT was already approved) or 2) the phase II study that was aborted before the planned 6 months duration because it would be “unethical” to continue?Weaver wrote:The OP claim that AZT has never been subject to a double-blind trial is easily debunkable with the most simple Google search - as are many of his other claims.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=azt ... 0QgQMIGDAA
Firestarter wrote:The Phase II "double-blind, placebo controlled trial" for AZT was stopped before the planned 6 months duration, because the AZT group was doing so much better than the placebo group. How could they know, if the study was blinded?
I really did try to find scientific evidence, but because all of these “scientific” medical studies are biased from the start, this is not that easy.chairman bill wrote:[Besides reading books and articles by AIDS-denialists; I went further. I searched for scientific evidence that proves:
Enough of this fuckwittery. Science does not deal in proofs, so when you say you searched for scientific evidence to prove something, you demonstrate that you don't understand science. So someone who doesn't understand science, is here lecturing us on pseudoscience. Talk about brass neck.
You could be right about this one.kiore wrote:? Because that is not what the Polio elimination program seeks to do, it seeks to eliminate Polio to prevent the massive epidemics that we used to see before vaccines became available and to actually cease the requirement to vaccinate against Polio once the last reservoirs are eliminated.several hundreds of children die of “wild polio”
Firestarter wrote:
I’ve read some horrible stories about the effects of vaccination.
Firestarter wrote: If I follow this reasoning the objective of mandatory vaccination of the poor kids, is to protect the elite for diseases.
Firestarter wrote: Is there information available about what percentage of the rich get vaccinated?
Firestarter wrote: It is known that the elite regularly use drugs and have a promiscuous sexual life.
Just a few of the many examples about the sexual life of the elite (information like this can be found easily in an internet search)…
The absolute top of the pyramid is the family Rothschild (currently led by Baron Jacob Rothschild).Sendraks wrote:I'm curious as to who the "elites" we might have been mingling with that we were protecting.
A lot of people believe that vaccinations causes autism. I sometimes wonder if stupidity is infectious.chairman bill wrote:I wonder whether vaccines cause paranoid conspiracy theorists to emerge from what would otherwise have been healthy children?
So you’re saying that your individual experience is evidence and than claim that anti-vaxxers shouldn’t use individual stories to support their claims?!?
I haven’t found many stories like the following example about the adopted HIV-positive baby Lindsey. I agree that presenting individual cases isn’t (real) science. Collecting hundreds of stories as touching as this could be used to wake up the masses of the genocide that’s being done under the guise of AIDS.Sendraks wrote:Firestarter wrote:
I’ve read some horrible stories about the effects of vaccination.
We've all seen the anecdotes about the extremely isolated effects of vaccination. But, no anti-vaxxer ever bothers to talk about the millions of people who didn't have a horrible experience and simply went on to live their lives free from some truly horrible diseases.
There are far, far, far more horrible stories about the effects of smallpox on people than there are or ever will be about the effects of vaccination.
Firestarter wrote:
If President John F. Kennedy would have been more careful to hide his sexual affairs dear Jacky might have tried to prevent his assassination.
Firestarter wrote:
Just a few of the many examples about the sexual life of the elite
Firestarter wrote:The absolute top of the pyramid is the family Rothschild (currently led by Baron Jacob Rothschild)
Firestarter wrote:Astroturfers are specialised companies to divert the attention away from criticism on the government and large corporations and spread information to make the establishment more popular.
The astroturfers never provide any interesting information, but mostly spread false rumours. By using several nicknames, they can have a discussion between astroturfers. And by using computers to help them write messages they are able to react very fast: https://sharylattkisson.com/top-10-astroturfers/
Whistleblowing is a major health risks.
Firestarter wrote:...
Whistleblowing is a major health risks.
I didn’t find many stories on AIDS-whistleblowers whose lives have been destroyed.
Firestarter wrote:Whistleblowing is a major health risks.
I didn’t find many stories on AIDS-whistleblowers whose lives have been destroyed.
The most interesting story is about Professor Peter H. Duesberg.
In 1991, a government-appointed panel of scientists, decided not to renew Duesberg’s research grants. Before raising questions about the role of HIV in AIDS causation, Duesberg’s grant applications were never denied. Duesberg remains cut off from all NIH funding, and commutes to Germany to conduct his scientific work.
Dr. Kuritzkes demanded that AIDS-denialists like Peter Duesberg be denied access to students and reported to authorities. WSJ reporter Marilyn Chase warned reporters not to unintentionally "exalt the position of denialists by making them seem like just some sort of independent intellectual contrarian whose views really should be heeded”.
On May 13, 2008, Semmelweis Society International (SSI) presented the Semmelweis "Clean Hands" Award to Professor Peter Duesberg and Investigative Journalist Celia Farber. Farber had interviewed Duesberg first in 1988: http://aidswiki.net/index.php?title=Doc ... s_Duesberg
The NIH barred Farber from further contact with their scientists and labelled her a "threat to public health". In May 2008, Richard Jefferys - of the “independent” AIDS Activist group TAG - led the campaign to antagonise the SSI over the Farber/Duesberg awards.
Clark Barker was hired by the SSI to investigate if Duesberg and Farber deserved the award. Immediately some former SSI-members told Barker that Duesberg and Farber are liars and responsible for millions of deaths by AIDS in Africa and insisted that he would stop the investigation. When Barker wouldn’t listen; on June 19th they initiated a "spam attack" against him: http://robertscottbell.blogspot.nl/2008 ... s-egg.html
Bryan J. Ellison in 1994 described how the careers of 5 whistleblowers (including Duesberg) on AIDS were destroyed: http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/newsletters/1994-01.pdf
William R. Holub - After publishing an article in 1988 about AIDS, was blacklisted from work in both industrial biotechnology and academia. He lost his home, was forced into bankruptcy, and now supports his wife and children with a job handling toxic chemicals, supplemented by delivering newspapers.
Philip Artz Kees - Charges were brought against him in 1985 before the California Medical Board after he testified about the promiscuous administration of psychotropic drugs like haldol, prolixine and thorazine at Patton State Hospital, which according to him resulted in immune deficiency (AIDS). His medical license was suspended (revoked in 1992), which led to bankruptcy.
Edward J. Wawszkiewicz – After publishing questions about the established AIDS thinking, was suddenly labelled "mentally ill" by the University in 1986, forced to stop teaching and with no salary and is now (1994) struggling to stay alive on food stamps.
Nathaniel S. Lehrman – Was critical of the official AIDS story since 1985. He was set up by his colleague, was persecuted for Medicaid fraud that this colleague had committed, lost his medical license. He was convicted in 1991 to 1-3 years in prison, $250,000 in "restitution" and a fine of $100,000 by a Health Department administrative judge.
Johan Van Dongen from the Netherlands discovered that Aids and Ebola were manmade. He lost his job at the University of Maastricht and his house: http://eboladeception.com/professor-joh ... t-detrick/
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