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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#21  Postby Steve » May 03, 2015 4:02 pm

trubble76 wrote:Surely it could be settled rather easily, by experimentation? If it works, it works, if it don't, it don't. Obviously, it sounds like bunk but then so does a lot of stuff that is now mainstream, why can't he settle the question with some data?

What am I missing? :scratch:

Read the link in twistors post. It pretty thoroughly debunks it.
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#22  Postby campermon » May 03, 2015 4:06 pm

Steve wrote:
trubble76 wrote:Surely it could be settled rather easily, by experimentation? If it works, it works, if it don't, it don't. Obviously, it sounds like bunk but then so does a lot of stuff that is now mainstream, why can't he settle the question with some data?

What am I missing? :scratch:

Read the link in twistors post. It pretty thoroughly debunks it.


To pseudoscience then?
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#23  Postby Steve » May 03, 2015 4:16 pm

Your the boss, but it seems appropriate.
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#24  Postby campermon » May 03, 2015 4:20 pm


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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#25  Postby campermon » May 03, 2015 4:23 pm

...and relax.

You may find that your towels have traversed from your feet to your head. Don't worry about it.

However, any further jumps may require the infinite improbability drive. Be warned.

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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#26  Postby Sovereign » May 04, 2015 4:40 am

trubble76 wrote:Surely it could be settled rather easily, by experimentation? If it works, it works, if it don't, it don't. Obviously, it sounds like bunk but then so does a lot of stuff that is now mainstream, why can't he settle the question with some data?

What am I missing? :scratch:


Well from what I understand is that they did it in a near vacuum and had force but they haven't done it in a complete vacuum. Also, I don't think anyone has tried to replicate this experiment. If, and it's a big if, it works in a complete vacuum, then we'll need another lab to replicate that result before anyone should run off screaming "We have impulse engines!" If it is a real effect, I don't know of any theory that would explain it as it's a violation of 1+ conservation laws.
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Re: Another space propulsion thread

#27  Postby laklak » May 04, 2015 7:18 pm

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campermon wrote:Awesome!

I hear that he's working on a hesienberg compensator at the moment.

:D


You can get them from China off ebay


Are you sure?

Yeah but you don't know when it will arrive.








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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#28  Postby kennyc » May 05, 2015 1:15 am

'They' also discovered Arsenic Life!!!!
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#29  Postby Sovereign » May 06, 2015 11:11 pm

Does that sound too good to be true? Excellent. This isn’t the first time that this theoretical drive—tested by a small lab called Eagleworks, based at NASA’s Johnson Space Center—has surfaced. Every time it comes up, it gets the space nerds frothing about the possibility of interstellar travel. And every time, physicists have to settle everyone down.

This time is like those times.

http://www.wired.com/2015/05/nasa-warp- ... poppycock/
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#30  Postby DougC » May 06, 2015 11:17 pm

What happens at post 42?
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#31  Postby Steve » May 07, 2015 2:04 am

DougC wrote:What happens at post 42?

We jumped back in time to post 29, having discovered the meaning of life. Life is so much more fun at 29.
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#32  Postby DavidMcC » May 10, 2015 2:23 pm

I'd like to see independent verifification of these results, especially as they were produced by Harold White!
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#33  Postby lucek » May 10, 2015 8:35 pm

DavidMcC wrote:I'd like to see independent verifification of these results, especially as they were produced by Harold White!

Move along Dave.
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#34  Postby DavidMcC » May 11, 2015 4:05 pm

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DavidMcC wrote:I'd like to see independent verifification of these results, especially as they were produced by Harold White!

Move along Dave.

I suspect that Harold needs a course in philosophy of science, because he is clearly sticking to his falsified ideas, even though he helped falsify them himself!
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#35  Postby Steve » May 11, 2015 8:25 pm

Nobody denies the truth so much as one whose pay check depends on that denial.
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#36  Postby lucek » May 11, 2015 8:27 pm

DavidMcC wrote:
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DavidMcC wrote:I'd like to see independent verifification of these results, especially as they were produced by Harold White!

Move along Dave.

I suspect that Harold needs a course in philosophy of science, because he is clearly sticking to his falsified ideas, even though he helped falsify them himself!

You having fun?
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#37  Postby DavidMcC » May 12, 2015 1:54 pm

lucek wrote:
DavidMcC wrote:
lucek wrote:
DavidMcC wrote:I'd like to see independent verifification of these results, especially as they were produced by Harold White!

Move along Dave.

I suspect that Harold needs a course in philosophy of science, because he is clearly sticking to his falsified ideas, even though he helped falsify them himself!

You having fun?

Why do you ask? Are you still "stuck in a rut" of support for White's pseudoscience?
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Re: Another space propulsion thread

#38  Postby kennyc » May 12, 2015 7:11 pm

campermon wrote:Awesome!

I hear that he's working on a hesienberg compensator at the moment.

:D



I already put in an order for 3.....or was that zero....damn....
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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#39  Postby CdesignProponentsist » May 12, 2015 7:25 pm

It didn't work...

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Re: NASA: EM Drive shown to work in space-like vacuum

#40  Postby lucek » May 12, 2015 7:49 pm

DavidMcC wrote:
lucek wrote:
DavidMcC wrote:
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Move along Dave.

I suspect that Harold needs a course in philosophy of science, because he is clearly sticking to his falsified ideas, even though he helped falsify them himself!

You having fun?

Why do you ask? Are you still "stuck in a rut" of support for White's pseudoscience?

Have you read this thread. Bashing a man who show greater understanding of the theories in question because you have why? What is your point what do you even have to add to the conversation. You shown no understanding the math or the physics. Why even bother.

Again if you read the thread I know there are more likely solutions to anomalous acceleration then acceleration of virtual particles. That doesn't mean that you aren't far wronger then Dr. White.
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