One bang one process.

pfrankinstein · **#4161** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 17, 2023 7:56 pm

romansh wrote:
pfrankinstein wrote:
I have the hypothosis that Science itself evolves .

Paul.

Do you have a hypothesis for whether snowflakes replicate or not?

Not while I am in psuodoscience.

Paul.

Cito di Pense · **#4162** by **Cito di Pense** » Feb 17, 2023 8:30 pm

pfrankinstein wrote:
romansh wrote:
pfrankinstein wrote:
I have the hypothosis that Science itself evolves .

Paul.

Do you have a hypothesis for whether snowflakes replicate or not?

Not while I am in psuodoscience.

Paul.

There you go, again, blaming someone else for the trouble you make for yourself.

pfrankinstein · **#4163** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 18, 2023 11:55 am

Cito di Pense wrote:
pfrankinstein wrote:
romansh wrote:
pfrankinstein wrote:
I have the hypothosis that Science itself evolves .

Paul.

Do you have a hypothesis for whether snowflakes replicate or not?

Not while I am in psuodoscience.

Paul.

There you go, again, blaming someone else for the trouble you make for yourself.

The fiction writer Thrower has thrown his teddy out of the pram, positively singing "evolution is a process" for a week after. :dance:

Beggars belief that "human selection" is interpreted by the majority as "Artificial selection".

I propose a chart showing by observation . mind ; the movement of selection. Bang to NS - human mind - then machine.

I have insights about my "one bang one process theory I have not yet posted.

I'd be up against mainstream science tweaking the "core value of the first step.

Every journey starts with a first step. What is evolution. Sing it thrower. :whine:

Firm foundational first statement. EVOLUTION = PROCESS.

HOW COULD I NOT BLAME EVERYBODY ELSE.

Paul.

pfrankinstein · **#4164** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 19, 2023 1:05 pm

A definition in science for all ages and levels of academia . What is evolution?

Some may contend that the word "process" is a far too simplistic definition or description of the phenomenon.

It puts me in mind of the quote, "Half as smart, twice as smart."

For me, it makes perfect sense to end the 150+ years of slang usage.

From infants to the highest level of education, like mathematicians, all students initially read from the same page and reap the benefits therein.

After all, Charles Darwin "did propose a process to answer the question of the origin of species." (There is no direct counterargument.)

Tedium is the seemingly endless repetition of my argument. Such a small point of order is given. UNLESS?

So I draw a line under the proposal. In this thread, my pseudoscientific thread, "Evolution has an unequivocal meaning,"

Done.

Paul.

It's scary to think Thrower may be twice as smart as he really is tomorrow.

What have I created... I jest.

pfrankinstein · **#4165** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 19, 2023 2:07 pm

The mix-up between natural selection Human selection and artificial selection

For me, it is a clear case of mistaken identity. Charles Darwin was a man of his time and not totally infallible.

He failed to label the various islands in his Galapagos Adventure, from where he collected his species of finches.

The actual action of selectively breeding thoroughbred racehorses is done by a human mind.

I believe Charles Darwin already understood the answer to "by means of" and the subject of selective breeding.

If I put the argument to the main man, "human selection," you say: "Artificial selection in the future."mmmmmm

But then I'm up against it. Rafts of dictionary evidence to the contrary.

Another day at the office.

Paul

pfrankinstein · **#4166** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 19, 2023 8:03 pm

The supposition of "primal selection?"

Given all the variables, nature expresses itself thus.

Paul.

pfrankinstein · **#4167** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 19, 2023 9:46 pm

Did primal selection stop when natural selection started.?

Paul.

Cito di Pense · **#4168** by **Cito di Pense** » Feb 20, 2023 4:26 am

pfrankinstein wrote:Did primal selection stop when natural selection started.?

Paul.

"Primal selection" consists of two words you slapped together. "Primal selection" is something you take for granted. I don't. It is not granted you, so don't ask questions as if it is. The questions you ask using two words you slapped together amount to the same move as asking someone, "when did you stop beating your wife?" Wife-beating has to be established, but you have not established "primal selection" except as two words you slapped together. So far you are just slapping your sausage.

pfrankinstein · **#4169** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 22, 2023 6:53 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
pfrankinstein wrote:Did primal selection stop when natural selection started.?

Paul.

"Primal selection" consists of two words you slapped together. "Primal selection" is something you take for granted. I don't. It is not granted you, so don't ask questions as if it is. The questions you ask using two words you slapped together amount to the same move as asking someone, "when did you stop beating your wife?" Wife-beating has to be established, but you have not established "primal selection" except as two words you slapped together. So far you are just slapping your sausage.

Nature has a way of expressing itself in the vast inorganic cosmos.

By the laws of phyisics. By means of Primal selection. Same thing. Remember I talk about all of it.!!?

Sure you can explain a single chain of " cause and effect. Physics chemistry biology.

Or you can say "by means of primal selection. Natural selection, hs.

Suppose I have chosen my pseudoscientific expression. Am I really so out of step.?

Well within the zone me thinks. Selection as a common denominator. Told with a Darwinian link.

Human selection, the troubles in the world affect my train of thinking you know.

Chin up. Shine.

Paul

pfrankinstein · **#4170** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 22, 2023 7:00 pm

Primordial soup.

The process of Primordial evolution. Get it got it good. I hide nothing. Silly word play or a logical link?

The process before " by means of NS. Primitive? So primitive no to recognised as a related process.

Basic Archaeology. Isnt that Charles Darwin noticed. ....Difference.

For a moment "the cosmos" think of it as inorganc "primordial soup.

A type of selection operating?

Paul.

THWOTH · **#4171** by **THWOTH** » Feb 22, 2023 7:07 pm

pfrankinstein wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
pfrankinstein wrote:Did primal selection stop when natural selection started.?

Paul.

"Primal selection" consists of two words you slapped together. "Primal selection" is something you take for granted. I don't. It is not granted you, so don't ask questions as if it is. The questions you ask using two words you slapped together amount to the same move as asking someone, "when did you stop beating your wife?" Wife-beating has to be established, but you have not established "primal selection" except as two words you slapped together. So far you are just slapping your sausage.

Nature has a way of expressing itself in the vast inorganic cosmos.

By the laws of phyisics. By means of Primal selection. Same thing. Remember I talk about all of it.!!?

.

pfrankinstein · **#4172** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 22, 2023 7:25 pm

Is it my desire to bend the meaning of words to fit my theory. A real possibiliy. Granted.

If we were involved in a game of "say what you see" there would be no argument. Today's definitions hint at human selection.

Charles Darwin meant "hs" not "AS.

You do not need to read a book to understand that Artificial intelligence makes artificial selection.

Paul.

For so long slang " evolution".

Do I raise a point of order?

A pencil sharpening exercise . ? I'd be mad to correct the experts.

Might I be so bold. With a well placed lever might I turn science on its head and update Charles Darwin?

Paul.

pfrankinstein · **#4173** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 22, 2023 8:02 pm

psudoscience id be the most rational person I know.

Yes problems ;, the pockets of difference, doubt,. Is my handle correct?

Refer to initial claim. Foundational statement.

If the big bang started one process then this would be my explanation.

The Darwinian frame not to be underestimated.

Paul.

Paul.

pfrankinstein · **#4174** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 22, 2023 8:52 pm

From a broad base evolution. Types of thinkers, scientist , greatminds. At the forefront of mankind's effort.

Minds from all walks of life and continents.

Am I here for good bad or indifference?

A question for everyone. Good bad you know....

By means of Human selection explains the "cause for concern in my reality.

Paul

romansh · **#4175** by **romansh** » Feb 22, 2023 8:59 pm

pfrankinstein wrote:
A question for everyone. Good bad you know....

A question for you ... do snowflakes replicate?

pfrankinstein · **#4176** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 22, 2023 9:26 pm

A question of deduction.

2.
the inference of particular instances by reference to a general law or principle.
"the detective must uncover the murderer by deduction from facts"

The principle of archaeology stratigrophy and the core of planets. For evidenc of Primal selection.

Paul.

pfrankinstein · **#4177** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 22, 2023 10:04 pm

romansh wrote:
pfrankinstein wrote:
A question for everyone. Good bad you know....

A question for you ... do snowflakes replicate?

My reality sir. ... this is my explenation;; to myself for myself. There is logic in my reasoning.

Why do the majority belive NS came from nowhere?

How many chapter types of selection employed in breeding a thouroghbred racehorse.?

Is NS a culmination of the three? Part primitive, part natural part human.?

We give way to our primitives aspect. past. Manifest destiny. ... By means of Human selection. War.

From a broud base evolution; thinkers from everywhere all over the globe. The more types the better none by stress..

The threat of nuclear war very much on the minds of our children.

Paul.

pfrankinstein · **#4178** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 22, 2023 10:39 pm

pfrankinstein wrote:The supposition of "primal selection?"

Given all the variables, nature expresses, portrays itself thus.

Paul.

pfrankinstein · **#4179** by **pfrankinstein** » Feb 22, 2023 10:55 pm

Charle Darwin understood that NS could be manipulated. To rationalise the difference, he needed a means to measure.

A particular standard to bounce off...

NATURAL SELECTION. A calculation made by nature and one where hs plays a part.

The difference between NS and hs, (artificial selection).

NS a fulcrum. A place to reverse and advance engineer from. too... from.

The difference between The Fox the hound explained and articulated by innovation.

New must be woo psudoscience?

Paul.

Cito di Pense · **#4180** by **Cito di Pense** » Feb 22, 2023 11:42 pm

What does primal selection select? Everything. What does primal selection exclude? Nothing. Same with "God".

There never was a more useless pair of words slapped together than "primal selection", when one word will do.

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