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Thommo wrote:Not really sure what you're looking for exactly. Google seems to be producing more stuff than I can shake a stick at.
(search term I used was "study comparing health indicators between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations")
Here's a smattering of pages, which in turn link to numerous studies, infographics and publications:-
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NE ... #t=article
https://thoughtscapism.com/2015/04/10/m ... ed-people/
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/ ... -children/
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... 011.566203
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-pe ... ted-study/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3057555/
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science/sc ... nated-kids
A couple of those links include images like:
CdesignProponentsist wrote:Even if they did cause autism, the sheer numbers of lives saved by vaccines would still far outweigh any risk of autism. Now apply the fact that there is no correlation between incidents of autism and vaccines. No brainer.
Pebble wrote:However, contradictory data is still being gathered
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28031551 - the last one is open source, and the authors have a track record
raitionalwiki.org wrote:Mark Geier and David Geier are a bunch of vultures[1] father-son team of American anti-vaccine advocates who specialize in quack cures for autism.
The Geiers are perhaps best known for their truly bizarre theories regarding androgens and mercury. In 2004, Geier advanced a hypothesis that testosterone increases the potency of mercury.[2] This led the Geiers to invent and patent a therapy regimen of chelation and Lupron,[3] an anti-androgen. Lupron is normally only given to children who show signs of precocious puberty,[4] so what the Geiers suggested was way off-label.[5] Their solution? Declare that all the children in their studies had precocious puberty.[6]
This regimen is, to put it mildly, controversial among actual scientists in relevant fields.[7] Fortunately, as of 2009 they no longer have access to Lupron,[8] so no more chemically castrating kids for them.
As of early May, 2011, the Geiers' controversial "therapy" has been found to be a concern by the Maryland State Board of Physicians.[9] Fortunately, they have also decided that Mark Geier's therapies pose such a threat to children with autism that he was stripped of his medical license.[10] It should be noted that David Geier is not and has never been a doctor of any kind, and in the same case was charged with practising medicine without a license.
Pebble wrote:CdesignProponentsist wrote:Even if they did cause autism, the sheer numbers of lives saved by vaccines would still far outweigh any risk of autism. Now apply the fact that there is no correlation between incidents of autism and vaccines. No brainer.
Works beautifully on a population basis - that argument fails with the average person thinking only of their child - other people taking 'risks' with their children provides the herd immunity that their individual child benefits from without the vaccination risks.
Thomas Eshuis wrote:The autism link claim seems to be based on a singular paper from the '90s, which has since been retracted and it's author has lost his doctor's title.
aban57 wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:The autism link claim seems to be based on a singular paper from the '90s, which has since been retracted and it's author has lost his doctor's title.
That's the Wakefield guy I'm talking about. Read the link, and see the extent of his fraud. It's not just a faulty paper.
Thomas Eshuis wrote:The autism link claim seems to be based on a singular paper from the '90s, which has since been retracted and it's author has lost his doctor's title.
UltimoReducto wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:The autism link claim seems to be based on a singular paper from the '90s, which has since been retracted and it's author has lost his doctor's title.
I can point to thousands of papers that are totally fraudulent and will never be retracted, but you sure strongarmed that Wakefield guy! Why do people use this appeal to authority? Are you trying to make it look like a cover up?
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