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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#121  Postby Paul » Oct 28, 2011 10:19 am

Brain man wrote:Whats unbelievable is that this discussion of fringe work is taking place “Again” in pseudoscience. This is a disgrace. If I google these authors names in a few weeks, most of their peer reviewed works will be supplanted in google by this forum branded as pseudoscience , even though it is clearly fringe. Due to the huge backlinking from the regressive political activism going through here. There is a healthy back and forward interplay between fringe and mainstream advancement as we all know, so whats going on here is damaging and regressive to that processs.

There is action being taken about this, all of those responsible will be named and shamed online, with a permanent site SEOd so it stays under the listings for this forum. Just like this site, there can be no libel, because it can be hosted anywhere.

There will be no appeal to this forum to make a separate section for fringe and pseudoscience, because steps have already been tried and met with ridicule. Those statements will be put online. Its clear to everybody they the staff here aren’t even going to think about this till there is website underneath ratskep in google pointing out the litany of shameful misrepresentation against hard working theorists.


If google shows up discussions here, then the searcher can make up their own mind about the topic in hand.

If the fact that a discussion is taking place under the pseudoscience section here influences someone's opinion about the validity of a topic, rather then the discussion itself, well then they're pretty bloody stupid.

Does the fact that googling "homoeopathy" brings up countless pro-homoeopathy sites, that support it, and claim that it is scientific, make homoeopathy valid?
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#122  Postby Paul » Oct 28, 2011 10:22 am

Oh and BUMP!

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Brain man wrote:The number of mods who were on power trips at RDF now eating humble pie in forums and meetups where they are shunned or considered badly is a testament to the fact that in science people remember these activities.


Really? Come on dish the dirt. Who? Where? When? :popcorn:


Are you going to back up that assertion with some evidence?
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#123  Postby Regina » Oct 28, 2011 10:27 am

Paul wrote:Oh and BUMP!

Paul wrote:
Brain man wrote:The number of mods who were on power trips at RDF now eating humble pie in forums and meetups where they are shunned or considered badly is a testament to the fact that in science people remember these activities.


Really? Come on dish the dirt. Who? Where? When? :popcorn:


Are you going to back up that assertion with some evidence?

Yes. He's going to post pics of the mods eating pie and listening to Humble Pie.
You just wait and see. :mrgreen:
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#124  Postby Evolving » Oct 28, 2011 10:36 am

I don't know why pi thinks it needs to be so humble. Surely it must know how important it is.
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#125  Postby Regina » Oct 28, 2011 10:44 am

Evolving wrote:I don't know why pi thinks it needs to be so humble. Surely it must know how important it is.

Of course it does know. But true greatness is often modest. Unlike shallow show-offs.
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#126  Postby Evolving » Oct 28, 2011 10:57 am

Like the square root of five, for instance. (Five O'Nacci, as it is also called.)

Golden ratio, golden rectangle, bla bla bla: all vulgar ostentation, if you ask me.
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#127  Postby Regina » Oct 28, 2011 11:13 am

Evolving wrote:Like the square root of five, for instance. (Five O'Nacci, as it is also called.)

Golden ratio, golden rectangle, bla bla bla: all vulgar ostentation, if you ask me.

Especially Golden Ratio. It's habitually hanging out with these flashy artsy types. :P
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#128  Postby Evolving » Oct 28, 2011 11:17 am

Shouldn't this discussion be in Pseudomathematics?
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#129  Postby Regina » Oct 28, 2011 11:23 am

Evolving wrote:Shouldn't this discussion be in Pseudomathematics?

:lol: Fine with me. Especially since my knowledge of mathematics can only be expressed in negative numbers. :mrgreen:
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#130  Postby Jumbo » Oct 28, 2011 11:28 am

Regina wrote:
Evolving wrote:Shouldn't this discussion be in Pseudomathematics?

:lol: Fine with me. Especially since my knowledge of mathematics can only be expressed in negative numbers. :mrgreen:


[rubbish maths joke]
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#131  Postby Evolving » Oct 28, 2011 11:36 am

One joke that raised a laugh from me was this:

"I can't believe they're still teaching the null hypothesis. I heard that was refuted years ago!"

Not strictly maths, I admit.
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#132  Postby Regina » Oct 28, 2011 11:53 am

For some strange reason, i'm reminded of this one:
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#133  Postby Regina » Oct 28, 2011 12:00 pm

The original version is a tad more laconic.
So this one's for you, Evolving:
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#134  Postby twistor59 » Oct 28, 2011 12:26 pm


Meine Schüler lernen auch ohne mich nix. :mrgreen:


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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#135  Postby Regina » Oct 28, 2011 12:33 pm

twistor59 wrote:

Meine Schüler lernen auch ohne mich nix. :mrgreen:


Woas is’n doas fu' oina sproch ?

Ist von einem meiner Kollegen. Und der ist gelernter Philosoph. :lol:
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#136  Postby twistor59 » Oct 28, 2011 12:37 pm

Regina wrote:
twistor59 wrote:

Meine Schüler lernen auch ohne mich nix. :mrgreen:


Woas is’n doas fu' oina sproch ?

Ist von einem meiner Kollegen. Und der ist gelernter Philosoph. :lol:


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#137  Postby Evolving » Oct 28, 2011 12:39 pm

heh heh

Heard it before, but it's always good for a laugh!

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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#138  Postby Evolving » Oct 28, 2011 12:45 pm

How long are we going to be allowed to entgleis this faden?
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#139  Postby Regina » Oct 28, 2011 1:01 pm

Evolving wrote:How long are we going to be allowed to entgleis this faden?

Hey, it's Pseudoscience, after all.
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Re: The 2011 of the Nobel Prize for physics is a mistake

#140  Postby Brain man » Oct 28, 2011 5:38 pm

Paul wrote:
Brain man wrote:Whats unbelievable is that this discussion of fringe work is taking place “Again” in pseudoscience. This is a disgrace. If I google these authors names in a few weeks, most of their peer reviewed works will be supplanted in google by this forum branded as pseudoscience , even though it is clearly fringe. Due to the huge backlinking from the regressive political activism going through here. There is a healthy back and forward interplay between fringe and mainstream advancement as we all know, so whats going on here is damaging and regressive to that processs.

There is action being taken about this, all of those responsible will be named and shamed online, with a permanent site SEOd so it stays under the listings for this forum. Just like this site, there can be no libel, because it can be hosted anywhere.

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If google shows up discussions here, then the searcher can make up their own mind about the topic in hand.

If the fact that a discussion is taking place under the pseudoscience section here influences someone's opinion about the validity of a topic, rather then the discussion itself, well then they're pretty bloody stupid.

Does the fact that googling "homoeopathy" brings up countless pro-homoeopathy sites, that support it, and claim that it is scientific, make homoeopathy valid?


thats not how it works in professional circles. people are hurried and have to make quick decisions. They google somebody see this, and may switch off right away, as this forum "looks" respectable. Google does not even aggregate the links from here. If i search on some theorists it comes up with pages of peer reviewed works interspersed with a link to each of one page of one of these threads, with Pseudoscience as the most prominent word.

However an SEO expert analyzed its backlinks and found almost all the activity around here is concentrated on athiest activism, not science. Its a political forum that can hike a thread above peer reviewed works from nature and other top journals.

The history and underlying activity of this forum is going to be made clear on a separate website. How it came to be basically and the true agenda underneath the placid looking professional graphics. richard dawkins threw you out. For good reason it appears and this is the result. More trouble.

Well it should not concern anybody but the owner of this site. The SEO info i get also says the value of this site is accruing at £16,000 a year (at very least). It takes work for that to happen. I will need to get a deeper report on whether the backlinking was crafted to increase market value. If so then maybe on that basis the owner is looking at this site as a financial investment and can be reasoned with privately.
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