Brain man wrote:The point is, if this trend continues its the ID corner who are going to end up advancing our understanding of evolution.

Fucking unlikely. For all their funding, etc, they are not interested in truth or fact. They are interested in their creationist agenda, at the expense of evolutionary theory.

There is no escaping that ID depends on an "intelligence". Who the fuck are we to believe the "intelligence" is, other than their pet gawd. It's such a shabby trick it beggars belief.

tolman wrote:

The_Metatron wrote:There is no escaping that ID depends on an "intelligence". Who the fuck are we to believe the "intelligence" is, other than their pet gawd. It's such a shabby trick it beggars belief.

On the other hand, ID does have some uses - particularly, demonstrating that many believers are sophisticated enough to have gone beyond a 'big old grandfather figure on a throne' conception of 'god', and allowing people to fairly easily distinguish between those believers who value honesty ahead of their own convenience and prejudices, and those who don't.

I don't agree. It allows its adherents to hide their god behind a smokescreen of some ambiguous "designer". Obvious to the most casual observer the sentiment is identical. In fact, I consider it a step beneath traditional theistic creationists. The ID crown have thought about the untenable prospect that is creationism, so have added a manufactured lie on top of it.

Not only is it rubbish, it'd deceitful rubbish.

Brain man wrote:the point is again if i want to find groundbreaking material, i other have to visit creationist websites, fringe theories or visit here and wait for something (by a moderator) to be posted in pseudoscience.

Brain man wrote:im not a creationist.....

Dawkins after receiving some calculations on the likelihood of super-intelligence existing elsewhere in the universe due to stats on extrasolar planets and some new experiments on artificial life is even backing down on his idea there could be no godlike power out there to a position of even if there is it was never right that we thought it could be true without evidence.

It's funny how this non-creationist uses the same hackneyed canards as the creationists... jus sayin.

Pretty soon I will find the time to bring this discussion to my own website on my own forum.
Then I will pick up where I actually left off (page 38) responding to people.

So far it seems like a lot of petty challenges to details of my theory that do not conflict with the main premise.
That's good and bad in different ways.

Planning to make a book of this soon, a pre-release of the finished version which needs to have plenty of equations, references, better images, and animations.



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Yes I am saying that sun light heats molecules and atoms in space or the upper atmosphere when it hits them, of course.
I have said repeatedly that I think that the statements of the flood were incorrect, that I dont think the entire world flooded up to the mountains, not all at once, and I dont think all the life in the world died between 4,000 and 75,000 years ago or anywhere near there.

Many of these challenges are missing my point or my updates.

BlackBart wrote:

harleyborgais wrote:Planning to make a book of this soon, a pre-release of the finished version which needs to have plenty of equations, references, better images, and animations.

Animations? In a book?

It might be a pop-up book. Maybe with pages we can color in, too! We're all very excited.

harleyborgais wrote:Pretty soon I will find the time to bring this discussion to my own website on my own forum.
Then I will pick up where I actually left off (page 38) responding to people.

So far it seems like a lot of petty challenges to details of my theory that do not conflict with the main premise.
That's good and bad in different ways.

Planning to make a book of this soon, a pre-release of the finished version which needs to have plenty of equations, references, better images, and animations.



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Yes I am saying that sun light heats molecules and atoms in space or the upper atmosphere when it hits them, of course.
I have said repeatedly that I think that the statements of the flood were incorrect, that I dont think the entire world flooded up to the mountains, not all at once, and I dont think all the life in the world died between 4,000 and 75,000 years ago or anywhere near there.

Many of these challenges are missing my point or my updates.

You don't have a theory.

I'm missing the part where you provide empirical data to support your assertion that there was ever such a thing as an "ice canopy" in orbit around the earth.

Why come here and start this thread if you don't want to discuss it here? Why do you need a blog? You can post all your important findings right here. Couldn't be that you want to have complete editorial control and dump anything that challenges your fucking wild assertions, could it?

RS

I have not posted here in a long time because of what I have been working on.
The last page I kept up with was page 32.

If you want to ask me anything email: rationalskepticismpost@freeornottobe.org
You can see my theories at freeornottobe.org, but know that I have also not worked on them for quite a while.
See: How Energy Works, The Genesis of Relativity, and How We Exist (The last, and fullest).

For months I have been figuring out Human Society, what are the causes of our problems, and what are the solutions...

The Cure for disease is to eat a balance of ONLY Foods that have existed in nature for a million years or more, so you detoxify your body with the Distilled Water and Fruit and Berry Juices, get the bodies Ph to just above 7.1, and have the right balance of the 42 "Essential Nutrients" Your body needs but cannot produce (17 elements/atoms, 25 molecules).
(ALL Drugs cause harm because your cells have not learned/evolved to use them fully, so they leave left over parts called free radicals which are ions, which cause harm to your cells. That is why ONLY natural foods can cure you. The ONLY use where the benefit of a drug outweighs the harm it causes, is temporary pain relief, that is IT!).

In order to end Wars between Humans forever, we need to inform enough people about the secret goings-on of the secret societies that are manipulating the nations of the Earth (they are mostly the central bank owners).
Here is that information:
http://www.truthcontrol.com/forum/fixing-problems
This is a forum thread containing many posts explaining the causes and solutions to many of Americas and the worlds major problems, especially the secrets of the Illuminati, Free Masons, Rosicrucians (the only true Christians), and others, that you all should know.

Here is a petition to End all Wars and Disease:
http://www.truthcontrol.com/forum/fixing-problems

And here is a list of things for you to look up to see the truth for yourself:
(I hand these out as flyers, you are welcome to also)...
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What you can do to save the world:
Learn how Bankers are corrupting governments,
and stop giving them your votes and money.

google:
1) doctor strike mortality rate
2) federal reserve audit
3) supreme court define "income"
4) federal reserve notes not legal tender
5) New World Order quotes
6) Where individual income taxes actually go
7) missing 13th amendment image
8) "UCC-connection"
9) how i clobbered every bureaucrat
10) "science of nutrition" by Max Heindel
11) truth control fixing the worlds problems
12) Ending Financial Tyranny

on youtube:
13) "The American Dream Film"
14) "what in the world are they spraying"
15) "the change your founders believed in"
16) "the cancer report"
17) "Decolonization Referendum Petition"
18) "Obama Deception"
19) "CIA WhistleBlower EXPOSES Everything"

Get a free pocket copy of the Constitution at:
http://www.hillsdale.edu/seminars/booklet/
Print these and spread them out if you want
the world to get better.
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IF YOU WANT TO BE A REAL AMERICAN:
Then you must be familiar with the Supreme Law of these United States of America:
The United States Constitution.
There is the full text and images of the original at the website for my new "Super PAC":
"The Constitutional Political Action Committee", (CoPAC):
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As a resident of the United States, if you know the Constitution, have a copy, and are capable of defending yourself physically...
Then you have the ultimate Power on this Earth!

The US Govt. only has jurisdiction under four forms of law: The Constitution itself, Equity Law, Common Law, and Admiralty/Maritime Law.

The US Govt. cannot search or take anything, or deprive you of Life, Liberty or Property, or Security in your personal Effects, UNLESS You:
Cause Harm to someone (Harm= Injury, Loss, or Detriment), or,
Violate a Contract or Mutual Agreement. -PERIOD-

No State shall make or enforce any law that takes contradicts the Supreme Law of the Constitution, which the stated purpose of is to: "promote the general welfare" of "We The People of the United States" (Preamble).

Every officer is sworn to support that Constitution, and whenever any officer of govt. or military violates that oath, or commits even a misdemeanor, they lose their authority automatically, and they become guilty of a crime for violating their oath.

The money in your pocket is not legal tender, the Federal Reserve is Illegal, and has stolen over $29 Trillion from us in the last five years (they've been at it since 1913), anyone who supports or defends the Federal Reserve is therefore a Traitor, that is Treason (giving aid or comfort to the enemies of the US), taxes on labor are not legal because the supreme court defines "Income" as profit, traffic tickets are not legal because you must have caused harm or violated a contract to be guilty of any crime, and there is much more on the links in this post.


IF YOU WANT THE WORLD TO GET BETTER, CHECK THESE FACTS!!!!

The solution to all war and disease on earth is simply to educate enough people about the cure for disease, and the secret societies (all the answers are in the links in this post).

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harleyborgais@gmail.com
facebook.com/harleyborgais
copac.freeornottobe.org
http://www.freeornottobe.org
http://www.truthcontrol.com/forum/fixing-problems
http://www.gopetition.com/online/9814.html
http://signon.org/sign/petition-to-end-war-and
(This petition is: "To end War and Disease" once and for all)

The_Metatron wrote:

BlackBart wrote:

harleyborgais wrote:Planning to make a book of this soon, a pre-release of the finished version which needs to have plenty of equations, references, better images, and animations.

Animations? In a book?


Now there is paper that can play videos.
Also there are electronic books.
And then there is the option of adding a CD or link to the animations for the printed copy.

If you want to actually get a response from me, you will have to email it: harleyborgais@gmail.com

(A post from my facebook, just now)...

Thinking about only yourself is WRONG! (And Bad)
Because that causes harm to others, which causes harm to you (in return).

Thinking about the welfare of others is RIGHT. (And Good)
Everything you do to help others, benefits you (in return).

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction,
Momentum continues until acted upon by an outside force, and
Energy cannot be destroyed, only changed in form....
ARE ALL THE SAME LAW! (And it is the most Basic Law of them all)
-That is why thinking about only yourself is wrong-
Because everything you do effects everyone,
and everything done by everyone else effects you.

hackenslash wrote:Oh dear, it's the Zeitgeist horseshit. I wonder what Tim O'Neill's up to?

I have not even watched "Zeitgeist", though I hear it is interesting,
because the links I focus on present actual facts which are the most important for us to know.

If you dont think my statements in the post above are correct, then you should check the facts.
If you choose to dis-believe them without checking the facts...

That makes you foolish, and actually a Traitor to We The People of these United States, without knowing it, because you dont know it...because you dont know who is causing Americas problems, or why, that makes you a Pawn in the game, a slave or cattle to the system...that actually makes you RESPONSIBLE for our problems.

The reason why that is factually true, is also the only reason why "THEY" (The rich, elite, ruling class, the members of the Secret Societies), have so much wealth and control, because people who dont know the truth (such as that of the Central Bank Owners and the "New World Order" they have designed), are the ONLY ones giving Money and Power in the form of votes, to these Criminals.

Please stop betraying America, and learn some facts.