Alcohol Induced Psychosis

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Re: Alcohol Induced Psychosis

#61  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2018 6:04 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:Dont know if the anti social behaviour was purely alcohol related or not because being sober and psychotic can still produce it.

I wish you'd pay attention sur. I am only psychotic when drunk.

But staying off alcohol is definitely better even if you had four years of no anti social behaviour with alcohol. I would say that those four years were despite the alcohol simply because anyone who drinks like a fish can instantly become anti social

Not really to this magnitude methinks.


Maybe you were more mentally balanced in those four years so had zero reason to be anti social.

The antipsychotics I was taking stopped me from being psychotic when drunk.

It sounds as if things happening outside your control made you anti social this time round.

Yes - psychosis due to the ignorance of the "pros" who could have prevented it all.

You could ask the mental health team about CBT
if you havent already had it. They need to be much more interactive as you need them now. Postponing appointments
is simply not good enough even if your behaviour was the reason given

There's nothing wrong with me as long as I'm not drunk. Again, please pay attention.
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Re: Alcohol Induced Psychosis

#62  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2018 6:09 pm

Fallible wrote:Maybe I'm not explaining myself well. You have listed a catalogue of things that happened to you while drunk which can't all have happened during the same episode, which means you thought 'oh well bad luck these things happen I guess' and then went and did it again and again. In essence it doesn't matter if you then when psychotic. You chose to drink again knowing that it gets you into trouble. My point being that the professionals aren't responsible for you doing that, unless you are dependent on alcohol and they haven't treated you as they should have with that.

I kept doing it because of all the years I drank with no fallout - thought I was just having a spell of bad luck. For the last bloody time - if the "pros" had told me about AIP and it's comorbidity with schizophrenia I WOULD NOT HAVE DRANK.
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Re: Alcohol Induced Psychosis

#63  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2018 6:12 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:Have you noticed any real difference in the severity of your psychotic episodes or do they all feel just as intense

It varies :dunno:

surreptitious57 wrote:Is it the mental symptoms like paranoia and anxiety which most bother you or the physical possibility of violence

It's the problems/fallout listed in the OP sur. What else.

surreptitious57 wrote:So whatever you experience must be of a magnitude of order significantly above that if it scares the hell out of you

The negative ramifications of psychosis are very severe in my experience.
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#64  Postby Fallible » Feb 12, 2018 6:21 pm

Of course exercise isn't going to treat debilitating mental illness, if by that you mean mental illness so severe that you can't do anything. We really are past the point though where we are looking for evidence that exercise lifts mood and so is very useful in treating depression as one tool to be used in conjunction with others. It's also not true that severe depression using that as one illustration means you can't do anything at all. For example, it requires motivation to commit suicide.
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Re: Alcohol Induced Psychosis

#65  Postby Fallible » Feb 12, 2018 6:26 pm

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Fallible wrote:Maybe I'm not explaining myself well. You have listed a catalogue of things that happened to you while drunk which can't all have happened during the same episode, which means you thought 'oh well bad luck these things happen I guess' and then went and did it again and again. In essence it doesn't matter if you then when psychotic. You chose to drink again knowing that it gets you into trouble. My point being that the professionals aren't responsible for you doing that, unless you are dependent on alcohol and they haven't treated you as they should have with that.

I kept doing it because of all the years I drank with no fallout - thought I was just having a spell of bad luck. For the last bloody time - if the "pros" had told me about AIP and it's comorbidity with schizophrenia I WOULD NOT HAVE DRANK.


And for the last bloody time, what sane person do you know who goes completely off their tits when drunk would NOT think that it might perhaps be a good idea to stop drinking, whether going off their tits was through psychosis or not? A spell of bad luck? You got locked up how many times? You got attacked how many times? You're in your right mind when not drinking according to you, so why did you KEEP ON making decisions which someone in their right mind simply would not make, when not psychotic? You're not making sense.
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Re: Alcohol Induced Psychosis

#66  Postby surreptitious57 » Feb 12, 2018 6:31 pm

Presumably you stop drinking immediately after your friend told you that you seemed psychotic
when drunk and / or when you had the lightbulb moment that connected alcohol with psychosis
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#67  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2018 7:08 pm

Fallible wrote:A spell of bad luck? You got locked up how many times? You got attacked how many times? You're in your right mind when not drinking according to you, so why did you KEEP ON making decisions which someone in their right mind simply would not make, when not psychotic?

Alright then; a very long, particularly horrific spell of bad luck. Also, I am, and always have been, sorely lacking in common sense, and it is/was such a deeply ingrained habit (drinking) I would blame anything but the sauce for my problems. Denial innit :oops:
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#68  Postby Fallible » Feb 12, 2018 7:09 pm

I didn't want to say.
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#69  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2018 7:13 pm

A good therapist does not pass judgement or give opinions, but more nudges the patient into discovering the truths for themselves innit ; )
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#70  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2018 7:14 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:Presumably you stop drinking immediately after your friend told you that you seemed psychotic
when drunk and / or when you had the lightbulb moment that connected alcohol with psychosis


Pretty much. The most I've had since the epiphany is 2 cans of lager in 24 hours.
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#71  Postby Fallible » Feb 12, 2018 7:15 pm

Oh this is definitely not my therapy face. I'm never this shouty.
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#72  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2018 7:19 pm

You can take fal away from her day job, but you can't take the therapist out of fal perhaps? Or maybe I just got lucky this time :thumbup:
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Re: Alcohol Induced Psychosis

#73  Postby surreptitious57 » Feb 12, 2018 7:26 pm

I agree with Fall here about your decision to drink as you cannot blame that on your mental health team because all the anti social shit would have happened any way. You are using them as a convenient scapegoat to absolve your self of responsibility for your actions when drunk. You could just as easily have decided not to drink. They were irresponsible in not giving you the relevant information but you were equally irresponsible in getting drunk. Maybe you would have been less likely to get drunk had you been informed by them but either way the responsibility is still yours and yours alone. As no judge or magistrate will accept such a ridiculous excuse for your anti social shit you need to accept responsibility for it. You had absolutely no qualms about buying alcohol at the time. So man up and own the decision as painful as it is. Stop blaming others for your bad choices
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#74  Postby Fallible » Feb 12, 2018 7:27 pm

KIR, I just want you to be well.
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#75  Postby surreptitious57 » Feb 12, 2018 7:43 pm

If you could avoid getting drunk from now on that would be really good. It would mean no anti social shit and no psychosis
But I think you will relapse at some point as you lack the resolve to be permanently alcohol free. However if you can keep
both the severity and the frequency of it to an acceptable minimum I would class it as progress of sorts. Only time can tell
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Re: Alcohol Induced Psychosis

#76  Postby surreptitious57 » Feb 12, 2018 7:47 pm


I want you to be well too else I would not bother posting in this thread
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#77  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2018 11:15 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:man up

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Re: Alcohol Induced Psychosis

#78  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2018 11:16 pm

Fallible wrote:KIR, I just want you to be well.

Fank u vewy much; I'll try my best :)
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Re: Alcohol Induced Psychosis

#79  Postby Fallible » Feb 12, 2018 11:22 pm

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Re: Alcohol Induced Psychosis

#80  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2018 11:29 pm

Hmmmmmm - inspirational and useful philosophy, technically inaccurate however I'm afraid for a coldcut like me fal

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