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seeker wrote:I have many doubts with the concept of "modularity". Is there good evidence for some modules? Is it only a post hoc speculation? Do we know exactly the concrete details (e.g. neural mechanisms, genetic determinations) of some modules? Do we know which neural subsystems and mechanisms are domain-specific and which ones are not? What's the evidence for the rival proposals (massive modularity, non-massive modularity, general purpose mechanisms)? Could you recommend me some references that clarify the conceptual and empirical issues about modularity?


palindnilap wrote:- Computer systems are much more adaptive when they are made modular. So modularity is an excellent candidate for an adaptation.
- Some functions of the brain, like face recognition for instance, show close to nil continuous individual differences but some spectacular discontinuous difference in people where no other function is impaired. This hints for a good encapsulation of those particular functions.
Not strong evidence at all I reckon. Probably there are many other arguments, but I would be surprised if they were of the smashing kind. By the way, I do believe that Fodor has overblown modularity by a long way.
No other evidence proposed ? Is there a cognitivist in the house ?
seeker wrote:I've found an entry about this issue in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, that distinguishes different claims (Fodorian, massive, and modest modularity), and summarizes some pros and cons for each one:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/modularity-mind/
What do you think?
Mr.Samsa wrote:Yeah I read that article a while ago and I thought it was a fairly decent overview of the issues involved with modularity. I was under the impression that modularity is a problematic concept though because it relied on the computational theory of mind, which isn't a well-accepted as a valid model of the mind/brain processes.
The case (for modularity) is most plausible for low-level (or “early”) visual processes – for example, those involved in the perception of color, shape from motion, and depth from disparity. In such cases one finds illusions strongly suggestive of mechanisms encapsulated from belief (Fodor, 1983; Pylyshyn, 1999). Moreover, in contrast to central processes, we possess quite detailed and plausible computational models of these perceptual processes: models which suggest the kinds of computations involved are highly specialized for very specific sorts of input and draw on very restricted kinds of information (Palmer, 1999). So, for example, the computations involved in computing depth from disparity are quite different from those involved in computing lightness; and the sorts of information relevant to one are irrelevant to the other. Finally, and again in contrast to central processes, a fair amount is known about the neural basis of such processes; and again what we know suggests that the modular picture is very plausible (Zeki and Bartels, 1998).
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