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s13ep wrote:
3. Use vocal or visual stimulation to perform the ritual; perhaps ask, "what happens when I, or they, die", and then the ritual will present to you, in a normal dream format, the answer(s) to your question. There are many rituals that one can perform---it doesn't always have to be a question.
Sendraks wrote:s13ep wrote:
3. Use vocal or visual stimulation to perform the ritual; perhaps ask, "what happens when I, or they, die", and then the ritual will present to you, in a normal dream format, the answer(s) to your question. There are many rituals that one can perform---it doesn't always have to be a question.
I accept that you used this question for illustrative purposes only, rather than as a suggestion of the sort of question that could only be answered through this ritualistic process.
Sendraks wrote:Good for you. I trust evidence that is verifiable.
Sendraks wrote:I've no idea how you would verify that you had interpreted a dream properly.
Nor is it obvious why improperly interpreting a dream would simply be blackness.
s13ep wrote:I wake up with the answer in my head, it's not fuzzy for everyone...
s13ep wrote:Wait, aren't you the one who only takes merit in hard-evidence?
s13ep wrote:I take it you've never had a ritualistic lucid dream.
s13ep wrote:
I take it you've never had a ritualistic lucid dream.
ScholasticSpastic wrote:s13ep wrote:
I take it you've never had a ritualistic lucid dream.
Alternatively, we might have had experiences similar to what you're describing, but we interpreted them differently. For example, I would simply call it a dream, and I would attach no more meaning to it than I do to any other flight of fancy- with the understanding that sometimes good ideas can arise from flights of fancy. But these ideas, once obtained from whatever source, must make it through a much more discerning process than uncritical acceptance if they are to be useful.
s13ep wrote:The hypocrisy in this thread.
Sendraks wrote:s13ep wrote:The hypocrisy in this thread.
Is where?
I don't need a lucid dream to answer the question what happens when I die. Which, in so far as I am concerned, amounts to "not a lot." I realise that yourself and others out there, have fanciful notions attached to what happens when you die, but they are a) not verifiable and b) at odds with the prevailing evidence that supports no ongoing concerns vis the conscious mind of that individual.
s13ep wrote:
Let other people have their go before you prance around making innate assumptions.
laklak wrote:I have solved problems in dreams. Usually the dreamed solution has absolutely fuck all to do with the real world problem, but I can sort of squish it into a semblance of relevance if I squint and look out of the corner of my eye. For example, I was worrying about the port engine, it runs rougher than the starboard, and smokes more when it's started. That night I dreamed about a man fucking a penguin (not me, of course, it was some other guy). After a while I realized that penguins are affected by oil spills, and diesel is an oil product, and fucking something can be viewed as injecting them with a penis. Et voila, my problem is the diesel fuel injectors!
Thanks, Timecube!
s13ep wrote:If you've never had a ritualistic lucid dream, you're not qualified to argue for it's falsehood.
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