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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#21  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jul 27, 2015 11:05 am

duvduv wrote:I can only imagine, but I'm not a moderator to do anything about it.


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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#22  Postby duvduv » Jul 27, 2015 7:04 pm

Does anybody want to get back onto the purpose of this thread??
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#23  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 27, 2015 7:12 pm

duvduv wrote:Does anybody want to get back onto the purpose of this thread??

Which is what, you regaling us with your opinions about a topic, while at the same time dismissing those of others?

You have your own blog? There is where you get to say if other people get an opinion.

Not here.


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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#24  Postby duvduv » Jul 27, 2015 8:13 pm

I don't understand. I started a thread to discuss the Scrolls and views about them. Where did I go wrong?!
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#25  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 27, 2015 8:30 pm

You got some views. Maybe not to your liking. That happens from time to time on an open forum.
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#26  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jul 28, 2015 5:24 am

When you try to reintroduce a subject that has been flogged to death dont expect to get the response you expected.
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#27  Postby duvduv » Aug 05, 2015 2:09 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:When you try to reintroduce a subject that has been flogged to death dont expect to get the response you expected.

Who decides which subjects should be eliminated and which should be continued? Have you looked at the list of forum topics lately and seen how many appear ridiculous to many people, and you attack a thread on the Dead Sea Scrolls that are STILL under investigation, almost 70 years after their first discovery?
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#28  Postby The_Metatron » Aug 05, 2015 2:25 am

It looks like it's your fellow forum members who are deciding whether and how to continue beating that dead horse.

Does it bother you that you're not getting the response you sought? It shouldn't. You would do well to consider where you are. I speak only for myself, but it seems a commonly held opinion here that Bronze Age scribblings aren't of much use.

I'm sure there are other parts of the internet where you will find the interest you seek.


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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#29  Postby duvduv » Aug 05, 2015 3:02 am

Yea, you're right.... Let's get back to talking about favorite TV programs and desserts.....
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#30  Postby duvduv » Oct 04, 2015 6:55 pm

After reviewing the topography of the Qumran caves and their inaccessibility, it seems to be pretty clear that whoever were storing the scrolls and artifacts in them was especially interested in making access very difficult for apparently precious texts. However, why would it seem they would hide scrolls that had differing religious teachings?

And it is interesting to note that the emergence of the Teacher of Righteousness (correctly should be Teacher of Justice - a modern Jewish term for rabbinical judges Moreh Tzedek) was 329 years after the destruction of the Temple. If the author(s) of the Damascus Document and Habakuk Pesher counted according to traditional Jewish chronology, the destruction of the Temple was in 425 BCE and not 587. Thus, the events of the Teacher would be in the time of Herod and his priest son-in-law Simon.Makes for a whole different scenario. Personally, I have never been sure the DD was actually a sectarian non-pharisee document at all.
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#31  Postby Alan B » Oct 04, 2015 7:52 pm

duvduv wrote:However, why would it seem they would hide scrolls that had differing religious teachings?

Maybe whoever did it was a historian and wanted to hedge his bets.
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#32  Postby duvduv » Oct 16, 2015 7:27 pm

I thought this was an interesting thread, especially to examine different angles about it. I guess folks don't feel that way.......
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#33  Postby duvduv » Oct 22, 2015 10:47 pm

I still would like to discuss these points, which are not usually discussed anywhere that I have found so far after about 20 years of being interested in such things.

After reviewing the topography of the Qumran caves and their inaccessibility, it seems to be pretty clear that whoever were storing the scrolls and artifacts in them was especially interested in making access very difficult for apparently precious texts. However, why would it seem they would hide scrolls that had differing religious teachings?

And it is interesting to note that the emergence of the Teacher of Righteousness (correctly should be Teacher of Justice - a modern Jewish term for rabbinical judges Moreh Tzedek) was 329 years after the destruction of the Temple. If the author(s) of the Damascus Document and Habakuk Pesher counted according to traditional Jewish chronology, the destruction of the Temple was in 425 BCE and not 587. Thus, the events of the Teacher would be in the time of Herod and his priest son-in-law Simon. Makes for a whole different scenario. Personally, I have never been sure the DD was actually a sectarian non-pharisee document at all.
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#34  Postby The_Metatron » Oct 22, 2015 11:06 pm

You do realize you're wanting to discuss nothing other than old copies of myths? It's like arguing over Grimm's or Disney's versions of a fairy tale.

What's the point?
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#35  Postby The_Metatron » Oct 22, 2015 11:11 pm

Although, I can say unequivocally that Collodi's original version of Pinnochio is far more interesting than what Disney did with it. But Collodi's original isn't always so kid friendly.
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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

#36  Postby duvduv » Oct 23, 2015 12:43 am

The_Metatron, I am having great difficulty understanding why a moderator of a forum on religion would go so far to discourage or downplay any interest in analyzing the historical context and origin of the DSS or anything else? It really doesn't fit the role of a moderator at all. The issues I raised are not addressed by professional scholars. Why does that in particular bother you more than, let's say, the myriad of idiotic threads all over the RationalSkepticism board?!! :what:
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