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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#121  Postby AlohaChris » Feb 25, 2012 6:18 pm

Yo, parrsurrey, where you at? You've got a huge back log of unanswered questions in this thread that you started. What up?
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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#122  Postby Xeno » Feb 25, 2012 10:14 pm

Perhaps this one has taken leave and they are late training a new one.
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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#123  Postby Agrippina » Feb 26, 2012 8:26 am

Or the question about women beating them scared the hell out of all of them and they've run off to think about it. :grin:
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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#124  Postby Shrunk » Feb 26, 2012 5:02 pm

The paarsurrey collective still hasn't made the point of this thread clear. Is it supposed to support the idea of purdah? Or is it to argue that atheists are hypocritical to oppose purdah, since the Buddha adovacted it, and Buddhists are atheists? Or is the point something else entirely? Perhaps paarsurrey are not certain themselves.
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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#125  Postby Onyx8 » Feb 26, 2012 5:07 pm

I imagine they won't clarify that but in a brand new thread.
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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#126  Postby Paul » Feb 26, 2012 5:11 pm

Shrunk wrote:The paarsurrey collective still hasn't made the point of this thread clear.


Thanks Shrunk - I'm stuck with this image now!

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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#127  Postby paarsurrey » Feb 27, 2012 10:46 pm

Buddha treated women respectfully, politely and very nicely; and it was on women’s insistence that he admitted them into his SANGHA. His wife and son joined the SANGHA one their own will and were not forced into it. It is wrong to state that Buddha hated women.
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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#128  Postby AlohaChris » Feb 27, 2012 10:59 pm

paarsurrey wrote:Buddha treated women respectfully, politely and very nicely; and it was on women’s insistence that he admitted them into his SANGHA. His wife and son joined the SANGHA one their own will and were not forced into it. It is wrong to state that Buddha hated women.


Who said Buddha hated women? Your bringing up SANGHA when you still haven't addressed PURDAH (or the lack thereof amongst Buddhists).

AlohaChris wrote:Yo, parrsurrey, where you at? You've got a huge back log of unanswered questions in this thread that you started. What up?


You going to address anyones questions or just spit out facts and non-facts?
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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#129  Postby Shrunk » Feb 28, 2012 12:08 am

AlohaChris wrote:You going to address anyones questions or just spit out facts and non-facts?


Now, now. Be fair. After all, there are so many of us and only.... Uh, never mind.
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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#130  Postby Onyx8 » Feb 28, 2012 7:12 am

^^^ :lol:


Where are these 'facts' that are spit out? I see lots of assertions.
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Re: Buddha taught the middle or the moderate path

#131  Postby paarsurrey » Feb 28, 2012 11:43 am

chairman bill wrote:And this is no doubt leading to a claim that we can't blame Islam as a whole, or Muslims generally, for the extremists that do things in the name of Islam. And you'd be part right. We can't equally apportion blame across a community, for the acts of a few. We can point to the ideology & the support it gives to the extreme actions, and we can deem their co-religionists as complicit where they are supportive of the acts, or are not prepared to condemn them.


We Ahmadis always condemn such acts.
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Re: Buddha taught the middle or the moderate path

#132  Postby paarsurrey » Feb 28, 2012 11:46 am

Onyx8 wrote:How do you know what the buddha said?


Why to doubt it when moderation is a thing to be appreciated in all ages? Is it unreasonable or against science?
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Re: Buddha believed in purdah?

#133  Postby paarsurrey » Feb 28, 2012 11:58 am

AlohaChris wrote:
paarsurrey wrote:Buddha treated women respectfully, politely and very nicely; and it was on women’s insistence that he admitted them into his SANGHA. His wife and son joined the SANGHA one their own will and were not forced into it. It is wrong to state that Buddha hated women.


Who said Buddha hated women?


I think some poster mentioned the word misogyny against Buddha or that he was a misogynist some days ago.
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Re: Buddha taught the middle or the moderate path

#134  Postby Ihavenofingerprints » Feb 28, 2012 12:02 pm

paarsurrey wrote:
It would just be like a Medical Doctor prescribes a medicine not to be taken orally; yet the patient takes it orally and suffers.

Will it be reasonable to blame the Doctor?


It would not be reasonable to blame the doctor. This is a very true statement Paarsurrey.

Someone with a level head like your's should be in politics. I would vote for you for prime-minister. :cheers:
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Re: Buddha taught the middle or the moderate path

#135  Postby paarsurrey » Feb 28, 2012 12:09 pm

Ihavenofingerprints wrote:
paarsurrey wrote:
It would just be like a Medical Doctor prescribes a medicine not to be taken orally; yet the patient takes it orally and suffers.

Will it be reasonable to blame the Doctor?


It would not be reasonable to blame the doctor. This is a very true statement Paarsurrey.

Someone with a level head like your's should be in politics. I would vote for you for prime-minister.


Thanks for the appreciation.

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Re: Buddha taught the middle or the moderate path

#136  Postby chairman bill » Feb 28, 2012 12:18 pm

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chairman bill wrote:And this is no doubt leading to a claim that we can't blame Islam as a whole, or Muslims generally, for the extremists that do things in the name of Islam. And you'd be part right. We can't equally apportion blame across a community, for the acts of a few. We can point to the ideology & the support it gives to the extreme actions, and we can deem their co-religionists as complicit where they are supportive of the acts, or are not prepared to condemn them.


We Ahmadis always condemn such acts.


Good. I've only knowingly met one, but do know a couple who are Sufi, and are quite vocal when it comes to condemning things such as violence in the name of Islam. It is unfortunate that a) they don't get the air-time in the media that is afforded to extremists, and b) have such little influence on their co-religionists.
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Re: Buddha taught the middle or the moderate path

#137  Postby paarsurrey » Feb 28, 2012 12:23 pm

chairman bill wrote:
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chairman bill wrote:And this is no doubt leading to a claim that we can't blame Islam as a whole, or Muslims generally, for the extremists that do things in the name of Islam. And you'd be part right. We can't equally apportion blame across a community, for the acts of a few. We can point to the ideology & the support it gives to the extreme actions, and we can deem their co-religionists as complicit where they are supportive of the acts, or are not prepared to condemn them.


We Ahmadis always condemn such acts.


Good. I've only knowingly met one, but do know a couple who are Sufi, and are quite vocal when it comes to condemning things such as violence in the name of Islam. It is unfortunate that a) they don't get the air-time in the media that is afforded to extremists, and b) have such little influence on their co-religionists.


It is very sad the news media only mentions when some bad act has been done; good actions don't get publicity.
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Buddha proved- the truthful Religion is not man-made

#138  Postby paarsurrey » Feb 28, 2012 12:35 pm

Buddha with his own example rescinding power and rule for enlightenment not once but twice proves that the truthful religion is not for amassing power or for exploitation of the people or for fleecing money from them. It is for a higher purpose.

Buddha refuted Christopher Hitchens assertion that religion is manmade; it is a boon from the Creator God.
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Re: Buddha proved- the truthful Religion is not man-made

#139  Postby trubble76 » Feb 28, 2012 12:38 pm

paarsurrey wrote:Buddha with his own example rescinding power and rule for enlightenment not once but twice proves that the truthful religion is not for amassing power or for exploitation of the people or for fleecing money from them. It is for a higher purpose.

Buddha refuted Christopher Hitchens assertion that religion is manmade; it is a boon from the Creator God.


So you've converted to Buddhism now?

By the way, the occasional good act does not prove the divinity of any religion.
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Re: Buddha proved- the truthful Religion is not man-made

#140  Postby chairman bill » Feb 28, 2012 12:40 pm

I'm with you part way - that a religion that disavows power & status, and which focuses on 'enlightenment' & 'truth', is much preferable to those which seek power, wealth & influence.

Hitchens was right though - religion is man-made.
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