Strontium Dog wrote:

NamelessFaceless wrote:But seriously, can you imagine how many of the world's problems could be solved if the amount of brain power that went into figuring out how to get around these stupid rules were applied elsewhere. It's actually depressing.

I didn't think brain power was limited in that manner? I was always under the impression that using your brain improved its power, rather than causing it to dwindle .

Ironclad wrote:Star Trek swoosh doors, that's what they need. As do I. And one can already say, Lights, and LO there be light.

epepke wrote:
But if someone want's you to flick their light switch for them, you should at least get a tip.

Ironclad wrote:Star Trek swoosh doors, that's what they need. As do I. And one can already say, Lights, and LO there be light.

it might be good practice, like Sudoku.

DarthHelmet86 wrote:

Ironclad wrote:Star Trek swoosh doors, that's what they need. As do I. And one can already say, Lights, and LO there be light.

The elevator video says that at least some Jews find the idea of an electronic eye or sensor reacting to them and causing something to happen is breaking the no fire rule. Of course the video then goes on to ignore that and just shows them using the elevator that has been set in auto movement mode because of them and does not explain at any point if it has the normal door sensor. So a clapper or any kind of sensor reacting to them would be out of the question it seems.

NineBerry wrote:

epepke wrote:
But if someone want's you to flick their light switch for them, you should at least get a tip.

Nope. No money transactions on Sabbath!

Thorham wrote:They're not allowed to turn on the lights on their sabbath? Oh lord

Clive Durdle wrote:

it might be good practice, like Sudoku.

Might not a society honed over centuries to get people to think and argue and discuss use precisely these methods?

Maybe everyone should do similar stuff? It should not be difficult to devise experiments about this - it sounds like we have a group who are already doing this.

What is interesting is some groups seem to become institutionalised in playing these games and this causes problems.

epepke wrote:

Clive Durdle wrote:

it might be good practice, like Sudoku.

Might not a society honed over centuries to get people to think and argue and discuss use precisely these methods?

Yup. That is, they might.

Maybe everyone should do similar stuff? It should not be difficult to devise experiments about this - it sounds like we have a group who are already doing this.

Yeah.

What is interesting is some groups seem to become institutionalised in playing these games and this causes problems.

Is this a problem? The fact that some Orthodox and/or Hassidic Jews will give some of their money to people who are clever enough to figure out things like this seems to me a good thing. More money for smart people. Less money for idiots.

Clive Durdle wrote:But what if we based our education systems on these methods? I propose the results will be impressive! How many Nobel prizes was it?