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Re: The real history of Thor

#161  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Mar 14, 2020 8:21 pm

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Except your source does no say that.
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Which part of Indo european arrived in Greece 3,500 years ago, do you not understand?

The part where that's fantasy and not reflected on the wiki page you keep mindlessly requoting.

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This part?

Greek (Modern Greek: ελληνικά, elliniká) is an independent branch of the Indo-European family of languages, native to Greece, Cyprus, Albania and other parts of the Eastern Mediterranean and the Black Sea. It has the longest documented history of any living Indo-European language, spanning at least 3,500 years of written records.[3] Its writing system has been the Greek alphabet for the major part of its history; other systems, such as Linear B and the Cypriot syllabary, were used previously.[4] The alphabet arose from the Phoenician script and was in turn the basis of the Latin, Cyrillic, Armenian, Coptic, Gothic, and many other writing systems.

The Greek language holds an important place in the history of the Western world and Christianity; the canon of ancient Greek literature includes works in the Western canon such as the epic poems Iliad and Odyssey. Greek is also the language in which many of the foundational texts in science, especially astronomy, mathematics and logic and Western philosophy, such as the Platonic dialogues and the works of Aristotle, are composed; the New Testament of the Christian Bible was written in Koiné Greek. Together with the Latin texts and traditions of the Roman world, the study of the Greek texts and society of antiquity constitutes the discipline of Classics.

During antiquity, Greek was a widely spoken lingua franca in the Mediterranean world, West Asia and many places beyond. It would eventually become the official parlance of the Byzantine Empire and develop into Medieval Greek.[5] In its modern form, Greek is the official language in two countries, Greece and Cyprus, a recognised minority language in seven other countries, and is one of the 24 official languages of the European Union. The language is spoken by at least 13.2 million people today in Greece, Cyprus, Italy, Albania, and Turkey and by the Greek diaspora.

Greek roots are often used to coin new words for other languages; Greek and Latin are the predominant sources of international scientific vocabulary.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language


This part?

There's only one mention of 3500 in that part and as I already pointed out to you it refers to Greek written sources not the existence of I-E in Greece.

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It has the longest documented history of any living Indo-European language, spanning at least 3,500 years of written records. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language

More puerile trolling. :roll:
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Re: The real history of Thor

#162  Postby Nevets » Mar 14, 2020 8:27 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:Do you not understand?

It is "you" that does not understand.
Indo-european could "not" have arrived in Scandnavia in 2900BC.

As indo-european had not even arrived in India until 2000BC when they got conquered by the Aryans


Languages spoken in India belong to several language families, the major ones being the Indo-Aryan languages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India


The Indo-Aryan languages, or Indic languages, are a major language family native to northern Indian subcontinent and presently found all across South Asia. They constitute a branch of the Indo-Iranian languages, itself a branch of the Indo-European language family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_languages


The Northern Indian languages from the Indo-Aryan branch of the Indo-European family evolved from Old Indic by way of the Middle Indic Prakrit languages and Apabhraṃśa of the Middle Ages. The Indo-Aryan languages developed and emerged in three stages — Old Indo-Aryan (1500 BCE to 600 BCE), Middle Indo-Aryan stage (600 BCE and 1000 CE) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages ... ia#History


Do you understand now? All that arrived in Scandinavia in 2900BC was an evolved form of Germanic that would later evolve farther in to Indo-european
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Re: The real history of Thor

#163  Postby Nevets » Mar 14, 2020 8:30 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote: Written history. Dialect


So you believe that the Greeks language actually goes farther back than 1500BC without any proof, or reason to believe this whatsoever? Given Greece is also in the continent of europe/Germania.

Are you suggesting they have Pre-conquer amnesia?

You are sounding like a fairytale believer
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Re: The real history of Thor

#164  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Mar 14, 2020 8:31 pm

Nevets wrote:Do you not understand?

It is "you me" that does not understand.

FIFY. Stop projecting and learn how to use the quote function properly. :naughty:

Nevets wrote:
Indo-european could "not" have arrived in Scandnavia in 2900BC.

Since I made no claim about that either way, this is dishonest straw-man #985687578

Nevets wrote:
As indo-european had not even arrived in India until 2000BC when they got conquered by the Aryans

Still not interested in your wanking scenarios Nevets.
ST already educated you on the difference between I-E and Indians.

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Do you understand now? All that arrived in Scandinavia in 2900BC was an evolved form of Germanic that would later evolve farther in to Indo-european

Go jerk of in the privacy of your own home. :roll:
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Re: The real history of Thor

#165  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Mar 14, 2020 8:32 pm

Nevets wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote: Written history. Dialect

I guess it must be your struggle with basic reading comprehension that causes you to not be able to use the quote function properly. :naughty:

Nevets wrote:
So you believe that the Greeks language actually goes farther back than 1500BC without any proof, or reason to believe this whatsoever? Given Greece is also in the continent of europe/Germania.

Are you suggesting they have Pre-conquer amnesia?

Yet more dishonest straw-manning.
More-over Germania isn't a continent.
And pre-conquer amnesia is your own insane concept. :naughty:
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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Re: The real history of Thor

#166  Postby Nevets » Mar 14, 2020 8:34 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Nevets wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote: Written history. Dialect

I guess it must be your struggle with basic reading comprehension that causes you to not be able to use the quote function properly. :naughty:

Nevets wrote:
So you believe that the Greeks language actually goes farther back than 1500BC without any proof, or reason to believe this whatsoever? Given Greece is also in the continent of europe/Germania.

Are you suggesting they have Pre-conquer amnesia?

Yet more dishonest straw-manning.
More-over Germania isn't a continent.
And pre-conquer amnesia is your own insane concept. :naughty:


Are you going to provide proof for your Greek fairytale belief?
Prove the Greeks were writing or speaking "Greek" pre 2000BC

Or keep believing in Jesus
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Re: The real history of Thor

#167  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Mar 14, 2020 8:36 pm

Nevets wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Nevets wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote: Written history. Dialect

I guess it must be your struggle with basic reading comprehension that causes you to not be able to use the quote function properly. :naughty:

Nevets wrote:
So you believe that the Greeks language actually goes farther back than 1500BC without any proof, or reason to believe this whatsoever? Given Greece is also in the continent of europe/Germania.

Are you suggesting they have Pre-conquer amnesia?

Yet more dishonest straw-manning.
More-over Germania isn't a continent.
And pre-conquer amnesia is your own insane concept. :naughty:


Are you going to provide proof for your Greek fairytale belief?
Prove the Greeks were writing or speaking "Greek" pre 2000BC

Or keep believing in Jesus

Are you going to stop posting your inane fantasy as being representative of other people's claims?
In other words, are you going to stop beating your wife? :roll:
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Re: The real history of Thor

#168  Postby Fallible » Mar 14, 2020 9:15 pm

What’s appauling? What’s raindeer?
She battled through in every kind of tribulation,
She revelled in adventure and imagination.
She never listened to no hater, liar,
Breaking boundaries and chasing fire.
Oh, my my! Oh my, she flies!
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Re: The real history of Thor

#169  Postby Nevets » Mar 14, 2020 9:16 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Nevets wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Nevets wrote:
I guess it must be your struggle with basic reading comprehension that causes you to not be able to use the quote function properly. :naughty:


Yet more dishonest straw-manning.
More-over Germania isn't a continent.
And pre-conquer amnesia is your own insane concept. :naughty:


Are you going to provide proof for your Greek fairytale belief?
Prove the Greeks were writing or speaking "Greek" pre 2000BC

Or keep believing in Jesus

Are you going to stop posting your inane fantasy as being representative of other people's claims?
In other words, are you going to stop beating your wife? :roll:


I have made a thread just for you.
It is my allegation that you are unknowingly supporting a Latinised political fairytale, and your political God is Hermes, Greek God of Language

Hermes was the ancient Greek god of trade, wealth, luck, fertility, animal husbandry, sleep, language, thieves, and travel. https://www.ancient.eu/Hermes/
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Re: The real history of Thor

#170  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Mar 14, 2020 10:03 pm

Nevets wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Nevets wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Yet more dishonest straw-manning.
More-over Germania isn't a continent.
And pre-conquer amnesia is your own insane concept. :naughty:


Are you going to provide proof for your Greek fairytale belief?
Prove the Greeks were writing or speaking "Greek" pre 2000BC

Or keep believing in Jesus

Are you going to stop posting your inane fantasy as being representative of other people's claims?
In other words, are you going to stop beating your wife? :roll:


I have made a thread just for you.

Since I did not ask you to, no-one will be fooled by yet another attempt to run away from a thread where your arse water has been soundly refuted, to go down another rabbit hole. :naughty:

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It is my allegation that you are unknowingly supporting a Latinised political fairytale, and your political God is Hermes, Greek God of Language

What part of 'I am not interested in your masturbatory fantasies', do you not understand Nevets? :naughty:
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Re: The real history of Thor

#171  Postby Nevets » Mar 14, 2020 10:19 pm

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Your source also does not establish that the Corded Ware culture brought I-E to Scandinavia. Rather only a dialect

Absolute nonsense.


My source, clearly describes the European location, of the corded Ware Culture, spreading nearly as far as the crossroads, and it is the exact same geographical location, of the Ahrensburg culture, that came 10,000 years earlier

Corded ware culture
The Corded Ware culture[2] comprises a broad archaeological horizon of Europe between c. 2900 BCE – circa 2350 BCE, thus from the late Neolithic, through the Copper Age, and ending in the early Bronze Age.[3] Corded Ware culture encompassed a vast area, from the Rhine on the west to the Volga in the east, occupying parts of Northern Europe, Central Europe and Eastern Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corded_Ware_culture


And ahrensburg culture. Exact same territory

The Ahrensburg culture or Ahrensburgian (c. 12,900 to 11,700 BP[1]) was a late Upper Paleolithic nomadic hunter culture (or technocomplex) in north-central Europe during the Younger Dryas, the last spell of cold at the end of the Weichsel glaciation resulting in deforestation and the formation of a tundra with bushy arctic white birch and rowan. The most important prey was the wild reindeer. The earliest definite finds of arrow and bow date to this culture, though these weapons might have been invented earlier. The Ahrensburgian was preceded by the Hamburg and Federmesser cultures and superseded by the Maglemosian and Swiderian cultures. Ahrensburgian finds were made in southern and western Scandinavia, the North German plain and western Poland. The Ahrensburgian area also included vast stretches of land now at the bottom of the North and Baltic Sea, since during the Younger Dryas the coastline took a much more northern course than today.

The culture is named after a tunnel valley near the village of Ahrensburg, 25 km (16 mi) northeast of Hamburg in the German state of Schleswig-Holstein, where Ahrensburg find layers were excavated in Meiendorf, Stellmoor and Borneck. While these as well as the majority of other find sites date to the Young Dryas, the Ahrensburgian find layer in Alt Duvenstedt has been dated to the very late Allerød, thus possibly representing an early stage of Ahrensburgian which might have corresponded to the Bromme culture in the north. Artefacts with tanged points are found associated with both the Bromme and the Ahrensburg cultures.

However, the distribution of the Hamburgian east of the Oder River has been confirmed and Hamburgian culture can also be distinguished in Lithuania. Finds in Jutland indicates the expansion of early Hamburgian hunters and gatherers reached further north than previously expected. The Hamburgian sites with shouldered point lithics reach as far north as the Pomeranian ice margin. The younger Havelte phase has been proven for the area beyond the Pomeranian ice margin and on the Danish Isles after c. 12,300 BCE.

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The "Backed Point" lithics of Federmesser culture are usually dated in the Allerød Interstadial. Early Federmesser finds follows shortly or are contemporary to Havelte. The culture lasted approximately 1200 years from 11,900 to 10,700 BCE., and is located in Northern Germany and Poland to south Lithuania. Fish-hooks were discovered in Allerød layers and emphasize the importance of fishing in the Late Palaeolithic. A certain survival of late Upper Palaeolithic traditions similar to contemporary Azilian (France, Spain) becomes apparent, such as the amber elk from Weitsche that can be considered as a link to the Mesolithic, amber animal sculptures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahrensburg_culture


I cannot babystep you.
It is also up to you to make some effort to understand.

The Corded Ware culture had evolved from the Ahrensburg culture.
And all the Corded Warers gave scandinavians, was an upodated version of what Scandinavians had gave them, druring the Ahrensburg
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Re: The real history of Thor

#172  Postby Nevets » Mar 14, 2020 10:38 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:

I have made a thread just for you.
Since I did not ask you to, no-one will be fooled by yet another attempt to run away from a thread where your arse water has been soundly refuted, to go down another rabbit hole. :naughty:


You misunderstand.
You are down the Rabbit hole.

You are Latinised.
But what you truelly are, is Hellenised.

You will defend Hermes, the Greek God of Language, by trying to remove any connection with Indo-europeans, in order to promote the lie that the Greek Gods gave you your language.

You do this automatically. Without even realising you are doing it.

You will even default to just blindly "assuming" that if it was not recorded in writing, then it must have been passed from generation to generation via oral tradition, because it certainly was not the Norse people that gave the great Greek philisophers, and writers of the Old Testament, their language. Those drunken barbarians. And you will spout this belief blindly, without any citation whatsoever.
Yet, i assume you are probably a Celt. Your belief is one of a conquered Celt.
Belief in Jesus and God is irrelevant.

P.S
I am not saying that the Norse gave the "entire world" their language.
We would need to go inside China, and Africa, for that debate.
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Re: The real history of Thor

#173  Postby Fallible » Mar 14, 2020 10:54 pm

What’s upodated? What’s druring? We say ‘had given them’ or ‘gave them’, not ‘had gave them’. What’s truelly? What’s philisophers?
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She revelled in adventure and imagination.
She never listened to no hater, liar,
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#174  Postby Nevets » Mar 14, 2020 11:09 pm

Fallible wrote:What’s upodated? What’s druring? We say ‘had given them’ or ‘gave them’, not ‘had gave them’. What’s truelly? What’s philisophers?

https://www.dictionary.com/
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Re: The real history of Thor

#175  Postby Nevets » Mar 14, 2020 11:13 pm

Fallible wrote:What’s appauling? What’s raindeer?


Unlatinised Urban

Do you insist on a one world Hermes dialect?

It is 2020.

There are children can now txt talk more knowledge in one minute that old school grammatical proper academics possibly could in their lives
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Re: The real history of Thor

#176  Postby theropod_V_2.0 » Mar 14, 2020 11:17 pm

Nugwell biff monkey!

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Re: The real history of Thor

#177  Postby Hermit » Mar 15, 2020 12:24 am

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LOL. It seems to have escaped your notice that the Danes and Norse turned up in England several centuries after the Angles and Saxons migrated there. Had you paid attention to the text preceding the statement you quoted you might have realised that "This view" is a reference to the Angles having arrived in what later became known as Schleswig-Holstein and Oldenburg from the Baltic regions between the Eider and Elbe rivers to the east-southeast. The Danes came down from what is now known as Norway and Sweden. But you didn't, so you misread the meaning of the statement you quoted, and to nobody's surprise came up with a conclusion that does not follow. The Angles were not Danish, nor were they Norse. It's not what the statement you quoted say either.


You are failing to understand, that my post removal was not done as an admission to defeat.
It was removed because it was a "double post".
I mistakenly post my reply about the ancient amber road, "twice".

Your post removal? Where did I even mention it?

Nevets wrote:And i never ever argued that the Norse people were not Nomads.
That has been my argument all along.

Where did I write it was not? I'm beginning to think you are replying to someone else's post.

Nevets wrote:They migrated south during the younger dryas, and they became Nomadic.
Travelling became part of their DNA.

Wonderful, but my post was about the Angles and the Saxons who migrated from the east, you know - the area between the Eider and the Elbe rivers. Now I really think you are replying to someone else's post.

Nevets wrote:And you have confirmed, that the Anglo-saxons were descended from norse-men.

Not at all. I have argued that the Anglo-saxons were not descended from norse-men on the grounds that in the second century Tacitus found them to live, among other Suebian tribes, between the Eider and the Elbe rivers a few hundred kilometres to the east-south-east. Now I'm almost sure you are replying to someone else's post.

Nevets wrote:I will however argue, that only the Saxons were descended from Norse-men.

The Anglos, were still very much Norse.

Anglia was in the area that is now "Denmark". Just below Jutland, and above Saxony.

See this map: Jutland. Anglia. Saxony.
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And a lovely map it is too. (Take note of the title: Anglo-Saxon Migration 5th century) It shows an area labelled "Anglia" and an area marked "Saxon Coast". That would be where the Angles and the Saxons lived round about the fifth century. But where is your argument that the Saxons were descended from Norse-men and the Anglos (sic), were still very much Norse? If Tacitus is correct the Angles came from the east somewhere between 100 and 400 AD. The Norse, Danes, Vikings, or whatever you want to call them, came from the north starting around 700 BC. Your attempt to connect the Angles with the Norse fails due to a geographical as well as a timing problem, which is what the post you should have replied to was all about.

Viking invasions, AD 700-1000
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Re: The real history of Thor

#178  Postby Nevets » Mar 15, 2020 12:36 am

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And a lovely map it is too. (Take note of the title: Anglo-Saxon Migration 5th century) It shows an area labelled "Anglia" and an area marked "Saxon Coast". That would be where the Angles and the Saxons lived round about the fifth century. But where is your argument that the Saxons were descended from Norse-men and the Anglos (sic), were still very much Norse? If Tacitus is correct the Angles came from the east somewhere between 100 and 400 AD. The Norse, Danes, Vikings, or whatever you want to call them, came from the north starting around 700 BC. Your attempt to connect the Angles with the Norse fails due to a geographical as well as a timing problem, which is what the post you should have replied to was all about.

Viking invasions, AD 700-1000
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Ahrenburg culture 13,000BC. starts during the younger dryas, and spreads outwards towards other parts of europe, as time goes on.
This is a culture spreading in opposite direction, rather than Northward.

They start out as Reindeer hunters.

But this has been explained about 20 times now.
Is getting impossible.
Just read about it yourself please.
Thank you

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahrensburg_culture
The Ahrensburg culture or Ahrensburgian (c. 12,900 to 11,700 BP[1]) was a late Upper Paleolithic nomadic hunter culture (or technocomplex) in north-central Europe during the Younger Dryas, the last spell of cold at the end of the Weichsel glaciation resulting in deforestation and the formation of a tundra with bushy arctic white birch and rowan. The most important prey was the wild reindeer. The earliest definite finds of arrow and bow date to this culture, though these weapons might have been invented earlier. The Ahrensburgian was preceded by the Hamburg and Federmesser cultures and superseded by the Maglemosian and Swiderian cultures. Ahrensburgian finds were made in southern and western Scandinavia, the North German plain and western Poland. The Ahrensburgian area also included vast stretches of land now at the bottom of the North and Baltic Sea, since during the Younger Dryas the coastline took a much more northern course than today.

The culture is named after a tunnel valley near the village of Ahrensburg, 25 km (16 mi) northeast of Hamburg in the German state of Schleswig-Holstein, where Ahrensburg find layers were excavated in Meiendorf, Stellmoor and Borneck. While these as well as the majority of other find sites date to the Young Dryas, the Ahrensburgian find layer in Alt Duvenstedt has been dated to the very late Allerød, thus possibly representing an early stage of Ahrensburgian which might have corresponded to the Bromme culture in the north. Artefacts with tanged points are found associated with both the Bromme and the Ahrensburg cultures.

Ahrensburg culture belongs to a Late Paleolithic and early Mesolithic (or Epipaleolithic) cultural complex that started with the glacial recession and the subsequent disintegration of Late Palaeolithic cultures between 15,000 and 10,000 BCE. The extinction of mammoth and other megafauna provided for an incentive to exploit other forms of subsistence that included maritime resources. Northward migrations coincided with the warm Bølling and Allerød events, but much of northern Eurasia remained inhabited during the Younger Dryas. During the holocene climatic optimum, the increased biomass led to a marked intensification in foraging by all groups, the development of inter-group contacts, and ultimately, the initiation of agriculture.[2]

The different technolithic complexes are chronologically associated with the climatic chronozones. The re-colonisation of Northern Germany is connected to the onset of the late Glacial Interstadial between Weichsel and the Dryas I glaciation, at the beginning of the Meiendorf Interstadial around 12,700 BCE. Palynological results demonstrate a close connection between the prominent temperature rise at the beginning of the Interstadial and the expansion of the hunter-gatherers into the northern Lowlands. The existence of a primary “pioneer phase” in the re-colonisation is contradicted by proof of e.g. an early Central European Magdalenian in Poland. Today it is commonly accepted that the Hamburgian, featured by "Shouldered Point" lithics, is a techno-complex closely related to the Creswellian and rooted in the Magdalenian[citation needed]. Within the Hamburgian techno-complex, a younger dating is found for the Havelte phase, sometimes interpreted as a northwestern phenomenon, perhaps oriented towards the former coastline. The Hamburgian culture existed during the warm Bølling period, the brief Dryas II glaciation (lasting 300 years) and in the early warmer Allerød period.

However, the distribution of the Hamburgian east of the Oder River has been confirmed and Hamburgian culture can also be distinguished in Lithuania. Finds in Jutland indicates the expansion of early Hamburgian hunters and gatherers reached further north than previously expected. The Hamburgian sites with shouldered point lithics reach as far north as the Pomeranian ice margin. The younger Havelte phase has been proven for the area beyond the Pomeranian ice margin and on the Danish Isles after c. 12,300 BCE.

The "Backed Point" lithics of Federmesser culture are usually dated in the Allerød Interstadial. Early Federmesser finds follows shortly or are contemporary to Havelte. The culture lasted approximately 1200 years from 11,900 to 10,700 BCE., and is located in Northern Germany and Poland to south Lithuania. Fish-hooks were discovered in Allerød layers and emphasize the importance of fishing in the Late Palaeolithic. A certain survival of late Upper Palaeolithic traditions similar to contemporary Azilian (France, Spain) becomes apparent, such as the amber elk from Weitsche that can be considered as a link to the Mesolithic, amber animal sculptures.

Bromme culture sites are found in the entire southern and southeastern Baltic, and are dated to the second half of Allerød and the early cold Dryas III period. The "classical" Brommian complex is typified by simple and fast, but uneconomical, flint processing using unipolar (single-platform) cores. A new development noticed in Lithuania introduced both massive and smaller "tanged Points". In Bromme culture this technology is proposed to be an innovation derived from tanged Havelte groups. As such, derivation of Bromme culture and even migration of its representatives from the territories of Denmark and northern Germany have been proposed,[3] although other sources hold early Bromme not to be very well defined in (late Allerød) Northern Germany,[4] where it groups with Federmesser.

Ahrensburg culture is normally associated with the Younger Dryas glacialization and the Pre-boreal period. The traditional view of the Ahrensburg culture being a direct inheritor of the Bromme culture in the late Dryas period is contradicted by new information that the Ahrensburgian techno-complex probably already started before the Younger Dryas,[4] strengthening proposals to a direct derivation from the Havelte stage of the Hamburg culture.[5] Some recent finds, such as the Hintersee 24 site in southern Landkreis Vorpommern-Greifswald, would contribute to the argument of an early Ahrensburgian in northern Germany. Alternatively, flint artefacts of Bromme tanged-point groups is considered to prelude the techno-complex of the Ahrensburg culture and would point to the provenience of Ahrensburg from Bromme culture. As such, the Grensk culture in Bromme territory at the source of the Dnieper River was proposed to be the direct originator of Ahrensburgian culture.[6] However, the exact typological chronology of this culture is still unclear. Though associated with the Bromme complex, Grensk culture has its roots more defined in the local Mammoth Hunters' culture.

Another possibility derives from the observation that on a regional scale, the Hamburgian culture is succeeded geographically as well as chronologically by the Federmesser culture, or Arch-Backed Piece Complex. The existence of a genuine Federmesser occupation in southern Scandinavia is highly controversial, and there is wide, though not unanimous, agreement that some Federmesser types constitute an integral part of the early Brommean artefact inventory. Still, Federmesser types are also often found in close association with Hamburgian assemblages (e.g. at Slotseng and Sølbjerg) and tentative, dating from northern Germany shows some degree of contemporaneity between the late Hamburgian Havelte sites and the Federmesser ones. Therefore, in southern Scandinavia the Federmesser may represent a brief transitory phase between the Hamburgian and the Brommean.[7] This corresponds with the notion that "tanged point cultures" such as "Brommian" or "Bromme-Lyngby" appear to be based on the Magdalenian, during the Allerød and were closely associated with reindeer hunting.[8]

Stellmoor
Stellmoor was a seasonal settlement inhabited primarily during October, and bones from 650 reindeer have been found there. The hunting tool was bow and arrow. From Stellmoor there are also well-preserved arrow shafts of pine intended for the culture's characteristic skaftunge arrowheads of flint. A number of intact reindeer skeletons, with arrowheads in the chest, has been found, and they were probably sacrifices to higher powers. At the settlements, archaeologists have found circles of stone, which probably were the foundations of hide teepees.

Scandinavia, Hensbacka group
The earliest reliable traces of habitation in the northern territories of Norway and western Sweden date to the transition period from the Younger Dryas to the Preboreal. More favourable living conditions, and past experience gained through seasonal rounds, prompted increased maritime resource exploitation in the northern territories. The Hensbacka group on the west coast of Sweden exemplifies the cultural fragmentation process that took place within the Continental Ahrensburgian.[9][10][11] Instead of new immigrations at the beginning of the Mesolithic, the discovery of deposited bones and new dating indicate that there was no (significant) break in settlement continuity. New knowledge provides aspects for a further autochthonous development, with a rapid climatic change stimulating a swift cultural change.[4]
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#179  Postby Hermit » Mar 15, 2020 12:36 am

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Fallible wrote:What’s upodated? What’s druring? We say ‘had given them’ or ‘gave them’, not ‘had gave them’. What’s truelly? What’s philisophers?

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Fallible was not inquiring about the meanings of those words. She was wondering why your posts contain so many typographical errors. I too wonder about them. Are you dyslexic or do you type with your elbows? There's a solution for both. It's called a spell-checker. You can add one to whatever browser you're using. It underlines words containing spelling errors in red, which you can correct by simply clicking on one of the alternative options the spell-checker offers, fix the typo yourself, add it to the spell checker's dictionary (in which case the typo will no longer be regarded as a typo), or simply ignore it.
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#180  Postby Nevets » Mar 15, 2020 12:40 am

Hermit wrote:What’s upodated? What’s druring? We say ‘had given them’ or ‘gave them’, not ‘had gave them’. What’s truelly? What’s philisophers?
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Fallible was not inquiring about the meanings of those words. She was wondering why your posts contain so many typographical errors. I too wonder about them. Are you dyslexic or do you type with your elbows?


Have i accused you of being bald, or autistic?
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Spelling errors will happen however when you type as fast as i have too.

I dont have the luxury of being a 5 worder that can spell check those five words
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