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Children less likely to trust ugly people

#1  Postby the_5th_ape » Jun 21, 2016 8:07 am

Is beauty only skin deep? Children don't seem to think so, like adults and babies, children think the uglier you are, the less trustworthy you are.

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#2  Postby chairman bill » Jun 21, 2016 8:33 am

That's why you need sweeties in your raincoat pocket, and the promise of puppies at home.
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Re: Children less likely to trust ugly people

#3  Postby tuco » Jun 21, 2016 8:50 am

Our ability to make this trustworthiness judgement develops as we grow, becoming more consistent as we approach adulthood, and, girls are better at it than boys.


Sexist!

Next, the researchers looked at the ratings of trustworthiness and attractiveness given to each face. They found a strong, direct relationship between the two traits -- the faces deemed more trustworthy were also considered to be more attractive.


I am glad we dont find attractive faces untrustworthy ;)
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#4  Postby juju7 » Jun 21, 2016 9:01 am

Yes but Donald Trump skews the result.
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Re: Children less likely to trust ugly people

#5  Postby tuco » Jun 21, 2016 9:11 am

No he did not. He is not being judged by book cover, he is the rational choice lol
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#7  Postby tuco » Jun 21, 2016 9:22 am

Indeed, we are here on a curve, friends, curve. These things hold true on curves.
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#8  Postby Mike_L » Jun 21, 2016 9:27 am

tuco wrote:Indeed, we are here on a curve, friends, curve. These things hold true on curves.


Curvaceous Women Considered More Trustworthy Than Their Leaner Counterparts
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#9  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jun 21, 2016 10:57 am

Everyone trusts a fat girl.
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#10  Postby Onyx8 » Jun 21, 2016 3:17 pm

I don't believe you.
The problem with fantasies is you can't really insist that everyone else believes in yours, the other problem with fantasies is that most believers of fantasies eventually get around to doing exactly that.
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#11  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jun 21, 2016 10:34 pm

Lol, it's funny because I'm a fat girl. :lol:
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Re: Children less likely to trust ugly people

#12  Postby tuco » Jun 22, 2016 12:13 am

From the paper:

The procedure for the attractiveness judgment was similar to that used for the trustworthiness judgment. The participants were instructed to judge facial attractiveness using a 3-point scale with “unattractive / not sure / attractive” (or “attractive / not sure / unattractive,” counterbalanced among participants, and the label “not sure” was interpreted as “neither unattractive nor attractive”); then, the participants continued to rate the degree of unattractiveness or attractiveness on a different 3-point scale with “a little / quite / very” (or “very / quite / a little,” counterbalanced among participants). Thus, combining the two refined scales into a single overall rating scale created a score that ranged from –3 (“very unattractive”) to 3 (“very attractive”), with 0 indicating “neither unattractive nor attractive.”


http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/ ... 00499/full

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This, friends, is not science of elementary particles indeed. How to examine attractiveness? Well, you ask people, 8-12 year old children respectively. If I start thread, not I but .., on attractiveness, its definition and meaning, we will be here forever. Unless they had attractiveness specifically defined and explained to the kids, they probably went like .. yeah like, dont like, I dunno .. and same with trustworthiness. So maybe they were essentially asking the same question twice.

As expected, our work provides some evidence that facial trustworthiness judgment abilities gradually improve during childhood.


Yup, learning computer, given enough samples.

We also found that the relationships between trustworthiness and attractiveness judgments in children groups were significantly weaker than that of the adult group. One explanation for this age effect may be that, facial experience and social experience might serve to refine this link between facial attractiveness and trustworthiness. Unlike adults, children participants are more likely to use unique standards (such as faces that resemble their own or the “look” of an important person) to judge facial trustworthiness rather than the shared standards used across other raters.


Oh that is how they get fucked up .. social experience lol
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#13  Postby Hardcoreathiest » Nov 28, 2016 12:20 pm

tuco wrote:From the paper:

The procedure for the attractiveness judgment was similar to that used for the trustworthiness judgment. The participants were instructed to judge facial attractiveness using a 3-point scale with “unattractive / not sure / attractive” (or “attractive / not sure / unattractive,” counterbalanced among participants, and the label “not sure” was interpreted as “neither unattractive nor attractive”); then, the participants continued to rate the degree of unattractiveness or attractiveness on a different 3-point scale with “a little / quite / very” (or “very / quite / a little,” counterbalanced among participants). Thus, combining the two refined scales into a single overall rating scale created a score that ranged from –3 (“very unattractive”) to 3 (“very attractive”), with 0 indicating “neither unattractive nor attractive.”


http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/ ... 00499/full

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This, friends, is not science of elementary particles indeed. How to examine attractiveness? Well, you ask people, 8-12 year old children respectively. If I start thread, not I but .., on attractiveness, its definition and meaning, we will be here forever. Unless they had attractiveness specifically defined and explained to the kids, they probably went like .. yeah like, dont like, I dunno .. and same with trustworthiness. So maybe they were essentially asking the same question twice.

As expected, our work provides some evidence that facial trustworthiness judgment abilities gradually improve during childhood.


Yup, learning computer, given enough samples.

We also found that the relationships between trustworthiness and attractiveness judgments in children groups were significantly weaker than that of the adult group. One explanation for this age effect may be that, facial experience and social experience might serve to refine this link between facial attractiveness and trustworthiness. Unlike adults, children participants are more likely to use unique standards (such as faces that resemble their own or the “look” of an important person) to judge facial trustworthiness rather than the shared standards used across other raters.


Oh that is how they get fucked up .. social experience lol


yes perhaps the children need educated as more ?
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Re: Children less likely to trust ugly people

#14  Postby Blackadder » Nov 28, 2016 12:48 pm

juju7 wrote:Yes but Donald Trump skews the result.

Donald Trump skews everything in the fucking Universe.
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#15  Postby laklak » Nov 29, 2016 8:45 pm

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:Everyone trusts a fat girl.


That's because of the Higgs Bosom, aka the "OhMyGod" particle.
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Re: Children less likely to trust ugly people

#16  Postby I'm With Stupid » Nov 29, 2016 10:58 pm

I thought it was common knowledge that everyone trusts better looking people more, right down to them being less likely to be convicted of crimes by a jury, and being given a shorter sentence on average when they are.
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Re: Children less likely to trust ugly people

#17  Postby Nicko » Nov 30, 2016 6:51 am

On a completely unrelated note, kids seem to like me ...

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Well, except for that time I attended a family gathering with my mustache waxed into handlebar points. That earned me a stern glare and an emphatic, "No!" from my cousin's daughter.
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Re: Children less likely to trust ugly people

#18  Postby archibald » Nov 30, 2016 9:46 am

the_5th_ape wrote:....so, like adults and babies, children think the uglier you are, the less trustworthy you are.


Or equally, the other way around, that the less trustworthy someone seems, the less attractive they seem, because I don't think the study showed which preceded the other.

I suspect that the word 'trustworthy' and the word 'attractive' have overlapping meanings. They are just words, after all, and have fuzzy boundaries. In that sense, it might not be surprising that we might mix them up. Both questions might be seen as asking much the same thing, do you like or not like this face?

I did think it was interesting that girls seemed to be slightly more consistent than boys, the suggestion being that they are better, or at least more consistent, visual decoders.

The full paper is here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4828579/

An example of two trustworthiness judgment trials.:
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Re: Children less likely to trust ugly people

#19  Postby chairman bill » Nov 30, 2016 10:46 am

On the plus side, animals don't give a shit.
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#20  Postby archibald » Nov 30, 2016 11:39 am

chairman bill wrote:On the plus side, animals don't give a shit.


First, this suggests you don't think you're a member of the animal kingdom.

Second, google 'mating preferences and visual cues'

and third, apparently...

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I am not personally defending the value of that experiment. :ask:
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