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Re: Colour

#501  Postby crank » Mar 20, 2017 11:13 pm

scott1328 wrote:
GrahamH wrote:
scott1328 wrote:In my highly variable opinion on this topic, today at this minute, the two statements are equivalent.



Then you are talking about your perception, not a property inherent in the leaves. :thumbup:

But there is a property inherent in the leaves which strongly influences my perceptions. And not just my own perceptions, but rather a very sizable majority of the population will agree with my perception of the leaves.

Sounds like cannabis.
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Re: Colour

#502  Postby SpeedOfSound » Mar 26, 2017 11:18 am

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jamest wrote:I'm merely here to explain why it is that our invented knowledge is just a mirror of the order present amidst the qualities of our experiences. It is essential that you all understand this if you want to delve into the really important stuff, as I have.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's not JUST our experiences. the world affects us in all sorts of ways that we do not experience (at least we can reasonably infer that it does, and you certainly cannot refute that. You have admitted there must be more to the world than our of it)

What delving you have done seems to have led you astray to the point you are clueless about the world. If you think only in terms of mind-first and experience you must be missing the big picture.


I am working on something and this post seems to draw out it's substance most well. We are forever adrift in a mistake (my label and opinion) of attempting to separate out out two categories from what can only be one. Those are: the category of what we experience, and the category of what affects us. Leads to all sorts of drifting confusion over where the color red is.

In a similar vein is the idea of the unconscious vs those things that happen behind our backs.
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Re: Colour

#503  Postby romansh » Mar 26, 2017 9:15 pm

SpeedOfSound wrote:
I am working on something and this post seems to draw out it's substance most well. We are forever adrift in a mistake (my label and opinion) of attempting to separate out out two categories from what can only be one. Those are: the category of what we experience, and the category of what affects us. Leads to all sorts of drifting confusion over where the color red is.

In a similar vein is the idea of the unconscious vs those things that happen behind our backs.


Indeed. The original cause of this thread was the comparison of [the sense of] colour to the sense of morality.
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Re: Colour

#504  Postby SpeedOfSound » Mar 26, 2017 10:06 pm

I missed that discussion. Is that a good thing? Where was it?
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Re: Colour

#505  Postby romansh » Mar 26, 2017 10:44 pm

SpeedOfSound wrote:I missed that discussion. Is that a good thing? Where was it?


Is it a good thing? I don't know ... are there good and bad arrangements for matter?

This is a derail thread from
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/philo ... l#p2377858
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Re: Colour

#506  Postby THWOTH » Mar 27, 2017 10:44 am

SpeedOfSound wrote:
GrahamH wrote:
jamest wrote:I'm merely here to explain why it is that our invented knowledge is just a mirror of the order present amidst the qualities of our experiences. It is essential that you all understand this if you want to delve into the really important stuff, as I have.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's not JUST our experiences. the world affects us in all sorts of ways that we do not experience (at least we can reasonably infer that it does, and you certainly cannot refute that. You have admitted there must be more to the world than our of it)

What delving you have done seems to have led you astray to the point you are clueless about the world. If you think only in terms of mind-first and experience you must be missing the big picture.


I am working on something and this post seems to draw out it's substance most well. We are forever adrift in a mistake (my label and opinion) of attempting to separate out out two categories from what can only be one. Those are: the category of what we experience, and the category of what affects us. Leads to all sorts of drifting confusion over where the color red is.

In a similar vein is the idea of the unconscious vs those things that happen behind our backs.

You're such an incorrigible goat. :shifty:
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Re: Colour

#507  Postby newolder » Mar 27, 2017 10:49 am

You mean those goats that yell like humans?
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Re: Colour

#508  Postby SpeedOfSound » Mar 27, 2017 12:14 pm

THWOTH wrote:
SpeedOfSound wrote:
GrahamH wrote:
jamest wrote:I'm merely here to explain why it is that our invented knowledge is just a mirror of the order present amidst the qualities of our experiences. It is essential that you all understand this if you want to delve into the really important stuff, as I have.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's not JUST our experiences. the world affects us in all sorts of ways that we do not experience (at least we can reasonably infer that it does, and you certainly cannot refute that. You have admitted there must be more to the world than our of it)

What delving you have done seems to have led you astray to the point you are clueless about the world. If you think only in terms of mind-first and experience you must be missing the big picture.


I am working on something and this post seems to draw out it's substance most well. We are forever adrift in a mistake (my label and opinion) of attempting to separate out out two categories from what can only be one. Those are: the category of what we experience, and the category of what affects us. Leads to all sorts of drifting confusion over where the color red is.

In a similar vein is the idea of the unconscious vs those things that happen behind our backs.

You're such an incorrigible OLD goat. :shifty:

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