“Men-ups!” is a humorous project by photographer Rion Sabean featuring men doing pin-up-style poses. It’s interesting how much more absurd some poses instantly look when they’re being done by men. http://www.petapixel.com/2011/10/04/men ... ale-poses/

This is supposed to be some example of sexism in our culture. Look how silly men look as pin-up men, posing in positions women use in pin up calendars.

Well, of course, because men posing in feminine postures are attractive to almost nobody. Women like to look at men posing in manly postures. Men like to see women in feminine postures.

This is similar to the "if they dressed male superheroes up like Wonder Woman it would look weird" motif in feminism. I mean, men are portrayed in revealing, stupid looking costumes too.

I think these are often presented as examples of sexism, but I really don't think they are. Anyone agree?

Men used to look funny with children in backpacks, but we all got used to it and now it seems normal.

Here's a funny look at male and female differences: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vygW0lV1yvU

When you think about it, it kind of looks absurd when women do it. It's just we've been conditioned to think that it's not. There's nothing inherently feminine about these poses.

Saim wrote:When you think about it, it kind of looks absurd when women do it. It's just we've been conditioned to think that it's not. There's nothing inherently feminine about these poses.

No, but one does not need to be "conditioned" to like to look at women posed "seductively" or posed to highlight sexually attractive features. Women's poses, whatever you call them, whether feminine or sexually provocative, or whatever, are done to highlight breasts and buttocks and other things that are thought to be sexually attractive. While there are certainly fashions in this area, it's as much biology as anything else.

Like, what is the purpose of lipstick and blush? On the surface, it's so women can look prettier. But, underneath we find that what they highlight are sexual aspects -- flushed checks -- full, deepened color lips - it's highlighting indicators of sexual excitement.

Grace wrote:Men used to look funny with children in backpacks, but we all got used to it and now it seems normal.

Here's a funny look at male and female differences: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vygW0lV1yvU

Men still look funny with children in backpacks...everyone looks funny with children in backpacks... lol


An oldie but a goodie -- how men and women shower...

Or, the more factually accurate version (watch to the end):

horacerumpole wrote:

Saim wrote:
Like, what is the purpose of lipstick and blush? On the surface, it's so women can look prettier. But, underneath we find that what they highlight are sexual aspects -- flushed checks -- full, deepened color lips - it's highlighting indicators of sexual excitement.

I'm not disputing your thesis, I'm just wondering - don't men also get flushed cheeks? Aren't thicker lips also attractive on men? And even if it weren't, wouldn't men have their own way of highlighting said "excitement"? Do they? And if not, why not?

Saim wrote:

horacerumpole wrote:

Saim wrote:
Like, what is the purpose of lipstick and blush? On the surface, it's so women can look prettier. But, underneath we find that what they highlight are sexual aspects -- flushed checks -- full, deepened color lips - it's highlighting indicators of sexual excitement.

I'm not disputing your thesis, I'm just wondering - don't men also get flushed cheeks? Aren't thicker lips also attractive on men? And even if it weren't, wouldn't men have their own way of highlighting said "excitement"? Do they? And if not, why not?

Because women are attracted to a big....thick... wallet...

horacerumpole wrote:This is similar to the "if they dressed male superheroes up like Wonder Woman it would look weird" motif in feminism. I mean, men are portrayed in revealing, stupid looking costumes too.

Yeah, like how superman wears his tights so tight.

horacerumpole wrote:

Saim wrote:

horacerumpole wrote:

Saim wrote:
Like, what is the purpose of lipstick and blush? On the surface, it's so women can look prettier. But, underneath we find that what they highlight are sexual aspects -- flushed checks -- full, deepened color lips - it's highlighting indicators of sexual excitement.

I'm not disputing your thesis, I'm just wondering - don't men also get flushed cheeks? Aren't thicker lips also attractive on men? And even if it weren't, wouldn't men have their own way of highlighting said "excitement"? Do they? And if not, why not?

Because women are attracted to a big....thick... wallet...

Didn't answer my question at all. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

(And I think I should note that just being next to each other in a photo doesn't make you a couple.)

Of course not, but the point was that men tend to be attracted to physical appearance moreso than women, and women tend to list things like humor and power as attractive qualities first, whereas men rank looks higher on the list. That would seem to explain why men compete with each other less on the physical spectrum than women do.

Off topic: That site is great.