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Federico wrote:At the suggestion of Shrunk, I open this new thread which seems more suitable for discussing what's happening in the world of the Web and, in particular, the efforts made by various Governments to restrict the free downloading of material found in the Web which they consider an attack on copyrights and an act of piracy with consequent loss of gain by the authors, and which many Internet users defend as being another form of freedom of expression.
What is particularly illustrative of this conflict is what's happening in various countries between proponents of ACTA (Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement), an international treaty aiming to standardize copyright protection measures and seeking to curb trade of counterfeited physical goods, including copyrighted material online, and those who strenuously oppose it arguing that it will stifle freedom of expression on the internet.
In an article written by Dave Lee for BBC News Technology and titled "Acta: Europe braced for protests over anti-piracy treaty", the author mentions that the treaty which intent is to standardize copyright protection measures, has been heavily criticized.
In particular by many people who initially were in favor of the treaty until they came to realize that: "it would limit and withhold the freedom of engagement on the largest and most significant network in human history, and thus may jeopardize the future of our children."
Trevor wrote:the net should be 100% free speech.
you should literally be able to say or post anything you want, and it should be up to the end user to block content.
Trevor wrote:I say YES because it should be up to the user what they look at or read.
For example, if you don't like gambling then don't go into a betting shop etc...
WalterMitty wrote:Firstly, I think there is a certain irony in someone advocating "100% freedom of speech [where] you should be able to say or post anything you want", as a member of a forum with a FUA.
Thomas Eshuis wrote:WalterMitty wrote:Firstly, I think there is a certain irony in someone advocating "100% freedom of speech [where] you should be able to say or post anything you want", as a member of a forum with a FUA.
Not really. This is a private site and thus subject to the whims of the owner.
WalterMitty wrote:Firstly, I think there is a certain irony in someone advocating "100% freedom of speech [where] you should be able to say or post anything you want", as a member of a forum with a FUA.
Secondly, dont like the 'regular' internet and its rules, codes of conduct and etiquette? Well there already is a "100% freedom of speech" web, you just need TOR to access it.
Thirdly, trevor used gambling as an example. Gambling is legal (well, the type he alluded to is). If you dont like gambling, "dont go into the shop". Thats great advice, and pretty easy to follow; gambling 'shops' are typically clearly advertised as such. One wouldnt go into a store that looked like, say, a supermarket on the outside, but was actually a gambling 'shop' inside.
On the internet trevor is proposing, I could follow a link to what appeared to be a blog for investing, but when I click that last link I am confronted with CP. Or hate speech. The power of choosing what I do not want to see/read is taken away from me.
WalterMitty wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:WalterMitty wrote:Firstly, I think there is a certain irony in someone advocating "100% freedom of speech [where] you should be able to say or post anything you want", as a member of a forum with a FUA.
Not really. This is a private site and thus subject to the whims of the owner.
So trevor is comfortable with curbing his rights to 100% free speech.
WalterMitty wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:WalterMitty wrote:Firstly, I think there is a certain irony in someone advocating "100% freedom of speech [where] you should be able to say or post anything you want", as a member of a forum with a FUA.
Not really. This is a private site and thus subject to the whims of the owner.
So trevor is comfortable with curbing his rights to 100% free speech.
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