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#1  Postby Scot Dutchy » Dec 09, 2014 9:16 am

Here is the Index:

http://www.goodcountry.org/overall

Interesting.
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#2  Postby Blackadder » Dec 09, 2014 10:27 am

Interesting indeed, although like all such rankings, the definitions and the assessments are necessarily subjective.

It seems almost self-evident that having a developed economy, democratic government, lack of internal wars, weak religious adherence, high literacy and decent civil infrastructure and healthcare will lift a country high in these rankings.

Material prosperity seems to be a pre-requisite, but not a sufficient, given the wealthy but disgustingly barbarian Saudi Arabian state.
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#3  Postby Ironclad » Dec 09, 2014 10:32 am

Ooof ..USA 114th in the Global Peace & Security category. I'd imagine the script writer of Downton Abbey ranks higher.
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#4  Postby Animavore » Dec 09, 2014 10:48 am

I'm actually not surprised with number one at all. :smug:
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#5  Postby Sgt Kelly » Dec 09, 2014 2:50 pm

Animavore wrote:I'm actually not surprised with number one at all. :smug:


Meh. Clearly they didn't account for the fact that you inflicted U2 on the world.
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#6  Postby Sendraks » Dec 09, 2014 3:18 pm

Animavore wrote:I'm actually not surprised with number one at all. :smug:


I am.
How the fuck can Ireland rank as number one on equality? That is bollocks.
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#7  Postby Scot Dutchy » Dec 09, 2014 4:05 pm

Sendraks wrote:
Animavore wrote:I'm actually not surprised with number one at all. :smug:


I am.
How the fuck can Ireland rank as number one on equality? That is bollocks.


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#8  Postby jamest » Dec 09, 2014 4:29 pm

Number 1 for peace & international security: Egypt.

Wtf. :scratch:
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#9  Postby Animavore » Dec 09, 2014 5:48 pm

Sendraks wrote:
Animavore wrote:I'm actually not surprised with number one at all. :smug:


I am.
How the fuck can Ireland rank as number one on equality? That is bollocks.


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#10  Postby laklak » Dec 10, 2014 3:17 am

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#11  Postby HughMcB » Dec 10, 2014 5:10 am

Sendraks wrote:
Animavore wrote:I'm actually not surprised with number one at all. :smug:


I am.
How the fuck can Ireland rank as number one on equality? That is bollocks.

Equality of in utero life, equality of bigotry towards minorities, and of course equal opportunity raping of boys.....

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#12  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Dec 10, 2014 5:41 am

Ironclad wrote:Ooof ..USA 114th in the Global Peace & Security category.


If the US didn't have an army stationed in the middle of Europe, there would be no peace there.
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#13  Postby babel » Dec 10, 2014 7:24 am

jamest wrote:Number 1 for peace & international security: Egypt.

Wtf. :scratch:

They are doing the best they can to keep their problems limited within their own borders. That must be it! :?
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#14  Postby Scot Dutchy » Dec 10, 2014 8:09 am

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:
Ironclad wrote:Ooof ..USA 114th in the Global Peace & Security category.


If the US didn't have an army stationed in the middle of Europe, there would be no peace there.


Really?

Do you call what we have there peace?
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#15  Postby Fallible » Dec 10, 2014 8:55 am

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:
Ironclad wrote:Ooof ..USA 114th in the Global Peace & Security category.


If the US didn't have an army stationed in the middle of Europe, there would be no peace there.


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#16  Postby Briton » Dec 10, 2014 8:56 am

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:
Ironclad wrote:Ooof ..USA 114th in the Global Peace & Security category.


If the US didn't have an army stationed in the middle of Europe, there would be no peace there.


Get your hand off of your blood pump...it's an action that leads to the spouting of bollocks.
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#17  Postby I'm With Stupid » Dec 10, 2014 9:57 am

I saw the TED talk that goes with this, and it seems like a good idea, but there are definitely some weird ones in there.

Why are countries like Spain, South Korea, Sweden, Germany, Canada, the Netherlands, doing so badly on "internet security," but countries like Egypt, Paraguay, Armenia, Algeria, Uganda all score very highly? And it's not just that rich countries will be a bigger target for criminals, because the UAE, Norway, Iceland and New Zealand all score highly too.

Here's a map from the study it's based on.
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I don't want to jump to conclusions, but when Burma has better internet security than most Western countries, you have to wonder exactly what they're measuring.

The other major area where there's been a massive flaw for so long is on environmental issues. Moving a shitload of factories to the developing world doesn't mean that Western countries are "doing good" in the world. It's still consumer demand from these countries that's the primary source of the CO2 emission, so I don't see how you can separate that demand from the production. It's also not measure per capita, it's measured relative to the size of the economy, meaning that huge per capita polluters like the USA and Australia get a middling result because their economy is big. They're effectively measuring efficient use of energy, rather than the amount of damage these countries are doing to the environment.

The biocapacity reserve one is also weird, because that's often an accident of geography and history. Of course the Netherlands is going to do worse than Australia in that respect. It also doesn't seem to take into account how effectively the countries manage them. It's all well and good declaring a protected area, but if there's constant illegal logging or poaching because of facilitated by various bank-handers, then you're not really doing good.

And I fail to see what any of the "prosperity and equality" section has to do with equality. Saudi Arabia are 43rd ffs.

And finally, what have drug seizures got to do with anything?
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#18  Postby Sendraks » Dec 10, 2014 10:15 am

HughMcB wrote:
Sendraks wrote:
Animavore wrote:I'm actually not surprised with number one at all. :smug:


I am.
How the fuck can Ireland rank as number one on equality? That is bollocks.

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Nailed it!
I'm surprised any of the other posters here had to ask why Ireland shouldn't be number one on equality. That is one nation that is utterly ass backwards on equality in so many areas.
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#19  Postby Scot Dutchy » Dec 10, 2014 10:19 am

Sendraks wrote:
HughMcB wrote:
Sendraks wrote:
Animavore wrote:I'm actually not surprised with number one at all. :smug:


I am.
How the fuck can Ireland rank as number one on equality? That is bollocks.

Equality of in utero life, equality of bigotry towards minorities, and of course equal opportunity raping of boys.....

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Nailed it!
I'm surprised any of the other posters here had to ask why Ireland shouldn't be number one on equality. That is one nation that is utterly ass backwards on equality in so many areas.


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#20  Postby Sendraks » Dec 10, 2014 10:20 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Sendraks wrote:
HughMcB wrote:
Sendraks wrote:

I am.
How the fuck can Ireland rank as number one on equality? That is bollocks.

Equality of in utero life, equality of bigotry towards minorities, and of course equal opportunity raping of boys.....

take your pic!



Nailed it!
I'm surprised any of the other posters here had to ask why Ireland shouldn't be number one on equality. That is one nation that is utterly ass backwards on equality in so many areas.


Name them?


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