Napoleon once said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Tolstoy once said, "History would be a wonderful thing, if it were only true." The worst examples are where war is involved. One truism I heard about it says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." For the winning side, it remains a casualty. Which brings up another truism. "History is written by the victors."

With multiple sources these days a bit harder to write A version.

Certainly Churchill covered up Magic and Ultra in his version of WWII and spawned 1984.

steamroller wrote:Napoleon once said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Tolstoy once said, "History would be a wonderful thing, if it were only true." The worst examples are where war is involved. One truism I heard about it says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." For the winning side, it remains a casualty. Which brings up another truism. "History is written by the victors."

Come to that, the human condition is absurd, and so, also, is your grand metametanarrative. So there.

Macdoc wrote:With multiple sources these days a bit harder to write A version.

Certainly Churchill covered up Magic and Ultra in his version of WWII and spawned 1984.

There is only one version of history that matters. The true version. When the truth is suppressed, telling the true version is impossible.

Cito di Pense wrote:

steamroller wrote:Napoleon once said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Tolstoy once said, "History would be a wonderful thing, if it were only true." The worst examples are where war is involved. One truism I heard about it says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." For the winning side, it remains a casualty. Which brings up another truism. "History is written by the victors."

Come to that, the human condition is absurd, and so, also, is your grand metametanarrative. So there.

Are there any intelligent people at this forum? That is, aside from myself.

steamroller wrote:

Macdoc wrote:With multiple sources these days a bit harder to write A version.

Certainly Churchill covered up Magic and Ultra in his version of WWII and spawned 1984.

There is only one version of history that matters. The true version. When the truth is suppressed, telling the true version is impossible.

Well, you're outa luck, my good man. The stuff you want to spout here, truth or otherwise, if it's what you've admitted you got banned for elsewhere, is not going to be permitted here, let alone tolerated.

steamroller wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

steamroller wrote:Napoleon once said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Tolstoy once said, "History would be a wonderful thing, if it were only true." The worst examples are where war is involved. One truism I heard about it says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." For the winning side, it remains a casualty. Which brings up another truism. "History is written by the victors."

Come to that, the human condition is absurd, and so, also, is your grand metametanarrative. So there.

Are there any intelligent people at this forum? That is, aside from myself.

Got a metric? I do. It starts by asking you to explain how division by zero is prohibited in the field of real numbers.

steamroller wrote:Napoleon once said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Tolstoy once said, "History would be a wonderful thing, if it were only true." The worst examples are where war is involved. One truism I heard about it says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." For the winning side, it remains a casualty. Which brings up another truism. "History is written by the victors."

And yet George Santayana said: Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

But, there's an even more apropos quotation from him, just for you:

Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.

Just A Theory wrote:

steamroller wrote:Napoleon once said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Tolstoy once said, "History would be a wonderful thing, if it were only true." The worst examples are where war is involved. One truism I heard about it says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." For the winning side, it remains a casualty. Which brings up another truism. "History is written by the victors."

And yet George Santayana said: Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

But, there's an even more apropos quotation from him, just for you:

Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.

We have to keep in mind the possibility that some people believe (or at least, insist) that history is aimed at something.

steamroller wrote:Napoleon once said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Tolstoy once said, "History would be a wonderful thing, if it were only true." The worst examples are where war is involved. One truism I heard about it says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." For the winning side, it remains a casualty. Which brings up another truism. "History is written by the victors."

Never mind history. Today is written by the victors, judging by the inability of the orange simian in the White House to discern facts from the narcissistic fantasies that occupy his cranium. Good luck with that "past" thing.

I love how lightly steamed green cabbage is in one breath slagging of skepticism, and in the next insisting that accepted historical fact does not have sufficient evidence to support it.

steamroller wrote:Napoleon once said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Tolstoy once said, "History would be a wonderful thing, if it were only true." The worst examples are where war is involved. One truism I heard about it says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." For the winning side, it remains a casualty. Which brings up another truism. "History is written by the victors."

What you've offered is a bunch of catchphrases that do not relfect historical research.

steamroller wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

steamroller wrote:Napoleon once said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Tolstoy once said, "History would be a wonderful thing, if it were only true." The worst examples are where war is involved. One truism I heard about it says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." For the winning side, it remains a casualty. Which brings up another truism. "History is written by the victors."

Come to that, the human condition is absurd, and so, also, is your grand metametanarrative. So there.

Are there any intelligent people at this forum? That is, aside from myself.

No. Just keep on talking to yourself. It's the only way.

Napoleon also said:
“Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.”

Now, ain't that the troof.

Although that may be wearing a bit thin these days.

Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

I don't know about history, but I've got a pithy quote about 911:

SafeAsMilk wrote:I don't know about history, but I've got a pithy quote about 911:

They were the first to know. 10 years before!!!

felltoearth wrote:

SafeAsMilk wrote:I don't know about history, but I've got a pithy quote about 911:

They were the first to know. 10 years before!!!

...or Ten Years After.
RS

Is it odd that I find Public Enemy more interesting and entertaining from an historical perspective?

lordy, it's shitty regardless of how you look at it.

LucidFlight wrote:Is it odd that I find Public Enemy more interesting and entertaining from an historical perspective?

Yeah, boy!