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jamest wrote:SafeAsMilk wrote:If there's someone involved who's having trouble understanding what's going on, it's most definitely you. Though you could argue I'm retarded because part of me still somehow believes you actually will express yourself clearly and sufficiently one day.
In any conversation which occurs between two parties, the retarded one is generally the one with the least experience and hence the smallest vocabulary. I'm not like you, as I haven't lived in one mental place all of my life, as you [seemingly] have. As I said earlier tonight, the bulk of my life (about 2/3rds) was spent as an agnostic/atheist (certainly, not as a theist). I'm a well-travelled man of the mind. Therefore, I refuse to be the one held responsible here for our difficulties in conversing with one another.
If anyone here needs to make any special efforts, it's you. You see, having lived your mindset for 2/3rds of my life, I speak your lingo well. Whereas you've never been to my land of the mind. Therefore, shake off your sloth and up your game, squire.
surreptitious57 wrote:The only thing I can change is myself. So that is all I focus on
Graham wrote:
But I take this topic to be a joke
surreptitious57 wrote:Graham wrote:
But I take this topic to be a joke
He specifically requested the thread contain intelligent posts and so even though it is a joke in places
it is not his fault. Because as soon as someone posted something silly virtually everyone else joined in
I can easily understand why he has such a low opinion of most of you if you are always taking the piss
BWE wrote:How do you as an idealist understand map-territory errors? How would you explain the issue to someone? Assuming there was no pressure to defend your explanation, just to state it.
I ask because I don't consider myself a physicalist or an idealist because I don't think we can really escape the issue well enough to make any sort of conclusions about reality at some ultimate level. I just figure engineering seems to produce predictable results and for some aspects of life, that seems to matter so it's a decent pragmatic assumption. But when I describe map-territory errors, I tend to slant them in such a way as to make the territory into sensory perception and the map into expectations of those perceptions which many people then make the leap to assume is a physical grounding even though that's not really how I see it.
Keep It Real wrote:I so nearly studied philosophy at uni but my cousin had already graduated from oxbridge with a degree in it and was/is lecturing in the states on it so I felt I needed an original field for our family/generation so studied psychology/economics instead. Thank fuck for that.
SafeAsMilk wrote:surreptitious57 wrote:Graham wrote:
But I take this topic to be a joke
He specifically requested the thread contain intelligent posts and so even though it is a joke in places
it is not his fault. Because as soon as someone posted something silly virtually everyone else joined in
I can easily understand why he has such a low opinion of most of you if you are always taking the piss
Virtually everyone was taking the piss because the OP was ridiculous. You can't blame readers for having a silly response to a silly OP.
jamest wrote:SafeAsMilk wrote:surreptitious57 wrote:Graham wrote:
But I take this topic to be a joke
He specifically requested the thread contain intelligent posts and so even though it is a joke in places
it is not his fault. Because as soon as someone posted something silly virtually everyone else joined in
I can easily understand why he has such a low opinion of most of you if you are always taking the piss
Virtually everyone was taking the piss because the OP was ridiculous. You can't blame readers for having a silly response to a silly OP.
There was nothing silly about my OP. It's the finger up version, is all, because few of you around here deserve anything better. All arrogant sorts who take nothing serious except their own retarded views. Well, fuck that shit.
If you want to be treated like Lords then treat everyone else the same way. Truth be known, I've never encountered a bigger group of witch hunters in my life. And guess how scared I am? Go on, make my day.
I don't give two fucks for this establishment, but if I hear one more post suggesting that I'm a bigger dick than you've all here been, collectively, then I'll shove my fucking freezer where the sun don't shine, least of all my collection of badgers therein.
jamest wrote:Keep It Real wrote:I so nearly studied philosophy at uni but my cousin had already graduated from oxbridge with a degree in it and was/is lecturing in the states on it so I felt I needed an original field for our family/generation so studied psychology/economics instead. Thank fuck for that.
Yeah, cuz look at the benefits that education has gotten you.
jamest wrote:Well, fuck that shit.
You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? . . . [Jesus’] winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the granary, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire (Mt 3:7-12).
jamest wrote:BWE wrote:How do you as an idealist understand map-territory errors? How would you explain the issue to someone? Assuming there was no pressure to defend your explanation, just to state it.
I ask because I don't consider myself a physicalist or an idealist because I don't think we can really escape the issue well enough to make any sort of conclusions about reality at some ultimate level. I just figure engineering seems to produce predictable results and for some aspects of life, that seems to matter so it's a decent pragmatic assumption. But when I describe map-territory errors, I tend to slant them in such a way as to make the territory into sensory perception and the map into expectations of those perceptions which many people then make the leap to assume is a physical grounding even though that's not really how I see it.
Why the fuck do you think that this question is significant? For me, it's on a par with asking me about our weather predictions.
I cannot be arsed with this shit unless you make it worth my while.
BWE wrote:jamest wrote:BWE wrote:How do you as an idealist understand map-territory errors? How would you explain the issue to someone? Assuming there was no pressure to defend your explanation, just to state it.
I ask because I don't consider myself a physicalist or an idealist because I don't think we can really escape the issue well enough to make any sort of conclusions about reality at some ultimate level. I just figure engineering seems to produce predictable results and for some aspects of life, that seems to matter so it's a decent pragmatic assumption. But when I describe map-territory errors, I tend to slant them in such a way as to make the territory into sensory perception and the map into expectations of those perceptions which many people then make the leap to assume is a physical grounding even though that's not really how I see it.
Why the fuck do you think that this question is significant? For me, it's on a par with asking me about our weather predictions.
I cannot be arsed with this shit unless you make it worth my while.
I see. Well. Toss back another gin I guess.
surreptitious57 wrote:Graham wrote:
But I take this topic to be a joke
He specifically requested the thread contain intelligent posts and so even though it is a joke in places
it is not his fault. Because as soon as someone posted something silly virtually everyone else joined in
I can easily understand why he has such a low opinion of most of you if you are always taking the piss
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