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Landrew wrote:Socialist: Someone who believes in spending other peoples' money.
Capitalist: Someone who believes in taking other peoples' money.
chairman bill wrote:How on earth does that follow? Imagine a similar statement made about murderous tendancies, with the x axis showing a variation from 'psychopathic', through something like 'murderous', to 'violent tendancies', and onto an extreme of 'peace-loving'. By your analysis, the ideal position would be somewhere between murderous & violent tendancies.
Animavore wrote:chairman bill wrote:How on earth does that follow? Imagine a similar statement made about murderous tendancies, with the x axis showing a variation from 'psychopathic', through something like 'murderous', to 'violent tendancies', and onto an extreme of 'peace-loving'. By your analysis, the ideal position would be somewhere between murderous & violent tendancies.
No. It's more like a curve between two sets of opinions than between two pathologies. Say between, "Cheese is awful shite which should be eradicated," and, "Cheese is the best stuff ever, people who don't agree are arseholes.' With most people falling between.
chairman bill wrote:How on earth does that follow? Imagine a similar statement made about murderous tendancies, with the x axis showing a variation from 'psychopathic', through something like 'murderous', to 'violent tendancies', and onto an extreme of 'peace-loving'. By your analysis, the ideal position would be somewhere between murderous & violent tendancies.
Animavore wrote:I get how that fallacy works in the example given but I don't see how it applies to the divide between socialism and capitalism when both those sides have strengths and weaknesses and either of them unfettered tend to be a bad thing.
Animavore wrote:I get how that fallacy works in the example given but I don't see how it applies to the divide between socialism and capitalism when both those sides have strengths and weaknesses and either of them unfettered tend to be a bad thing.
...but I do know that if political beliefs follow a normal distribution, (the Ol' Bell Curve) then most of the good content is in the fat middle, and much less truth is contained out in the rat-tail extremes of the Right or the Left Wings.
Mr.Samsa wrote:
"Bob says we should buy a computer. Sue says we shouldn't. Therefore, the best solution is to compromise and buy half a computer."
Landrew wrote:Socialist: Someone who believes in spending other peoples' money.
Capitalist: Someone who believes in taking other peoples' money.
Thank God most of us are somewhere in between.
Those two couldn't exist without our constant support.
Mr.Samsa wrote:
You don't think there are any cases where conflicting wants/needs cannot be resolved by an extreme, rather than a middle or compromise?
advaitya wrote:But this thread is about beliefs and not wants/needs so the example you furnished is superfluous.
Another problem with your example. It individuates the problem whereas we often talk of ideological beliefs at a societal level where it's a lot more problematic.
To your question - yes wants/needs (beliefs too for that matter) can be resolved by adopting an extreme position. It's routinely done and it's a function of power. The appropriate question is if it should be.
Landrew wrote:I don't know which side is more righteous...
Mr.Samsa wrote:
"Bob says we should buy a computer. Sue says we shouldn't. Therefore, the best solution is to compromise and buy half a computer."
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