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Not good enough for me = not good enough for you!

#1  Postby Kenneth-Kaunda » Jul 05, 2012 2:50 am

If I'm not good enough for you then you're not good enough for me!

Is this a fair appraisal?

For instance, if we are rejected at a job interview and we know we are good enough for the position, should we spread poor words about the company?

How about if we are rejected by a number of women - does that give us the right to hate them?

Isn't it just rather weak to return rejection with kindness and respect?

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#3  Postby ElDiablo » Jul 05, 2012 3:19 am

Doesn't indifference work for you?
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#4  Postby Fenrir » Jul 05, 2012 3:24 am

This thread is not good enough for me to post in.
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#5  Postby orpheus » Jul 05, 2012 3:53 am

But those are not the only two options. One can also take the position that their rejection says nothing about me; it may say something about them, but that's all. Those who rejected me become irrelevant to my life. It is not always easy to adopt this stance, because I naturally feel angry, hurt or humiliated. It doesn't come naturally; one must decide to take this attitude. But always my experience has proved Borges right when he said, "I think that the only possible revenge is forgetfulness, oblivion."
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#6  Postby biscuit » Jul 05, 2012 4:21 am

Kenneth-Kaunda wrote:

How about if we are rejected by a number of women - does that give us the right to hate them?


i've never been rejected by a woman :smoke:
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#7  Postby Kenneth-Kaunda » Jul 05, 2012 4:23 am

ok then, how about if all the men you tried dating rejected you.

how would your opinion of them be do you think?

not saying this has happened to me of course...heh heh ;)
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#8  Postby Fenrir » Jul 05, 2012 4:35 am

Knowing you can do the job and meet their requirements doesn't really give you anything to go on though if you do not know the other applicants and their qualities.

Being good enough and not getting the job might just mean there were 5 others who better matched what they were after or had better qualifications and experience or had other qualities the company thought might be useful.

Not getting the job may be no reflection on yourself or on them.

If they gave the job to someone for a dodgy reason and you know that then maybe it's worth a whine, but not if you don't have the full story.
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#9  Postby Kenneth-Kaunda » Jul 05, 2012 6:04 am

ok, that's fair enough, so let's look at the personal situation I gave regarding the field of love.

Let's say one were always rejected by members of the opposite sex, even though we know ourselves to be of good character.

How would one be entitled to feel then?

Perhaps we had a deficiency that could not be altered, let's say a physical defect, weight problem or the like.

Would it really be realistic for us to assume the attitude of ' hey, I know I'm a good guy but am just not up to the mark, so live and let live, doesn't bother me'

let's face it - many people are seething with resentment and I'm sure this is one of the major ones - jilted lovers and all that!

Who is to say we are not good enough when often we are just judged by the artificially contrived mass of human consciousness?
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#10  Postby Godless Infidel » Jul 05, 2012 6:18 am

Kenneth-Kaunda wrote:If I'm not good enough for you then you're not good enough for me!

Is this a fair appraisal?

No.

For instance, if we are rejected at a job interview and we know we are good enough for the position, should we spread poor words about the company?

No.

How about if we are rejected by a number of women - does that give us the right to hate them?

No.

Isn't it just rather weak to return rejection with kindness and respect?

No.

discuss.

No.
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#11  Postby Kenneth-Kaunda » Jul 05, 2012 6:22 am

I take it that's a 'no' then?
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#12  Postby Spearthrower » Jul 05, 2012 6:30 am

Kenneth-Kaunda wrote:ok, that's fair enough, so let's look at the personal situation I gave regarding the field of love.

Let's say one were always rejected by members of the opposite sex, even though we know ourselves to be of good character.

How would one be entitled to feel then?

Perhaps we had a deficiency that could not be altered, let's say a physical defect, weight problem or the like.

Would it really be realistic for us to assume the attitude of ' hey, I know I'm a good guy but am just not up to the mark, so live and let live, doesn't bother me'

let's face it - many people are seething with resentment and I'm sure this is one of the major ones - jilted lovers and all that!

Who is to say we are not good enough when often we are just judged by the artificially contrived mass of human consciousness?


Again, I'm afraid I am going to have to charge you with oversimplification.

Does having a good character entitle someone to getting every woman they encounter?

Surely attraction is not as simple as 'he's good, therefore I accept his advances'.

Personally, I'd perhaps feel disappointed or dejected... but seething with resentment? Absolutely not. I wouldn't consider it a failing on her part, and I wouldn't consider it a failing on my part. I'd just accept that there was no attraction on her side.
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#13  Postby babel » Jul 05, 2012 7:56 am

I'm sorry, but in this specific situation, it's her right to reject or accept you. Your feelings for her entitle you with nothing on her part.
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#14  Postby BlackBart » Jul 05, 2012 7:59 am

Since when was human conciousness artificially contrived? :dunno:
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#15  Postby Kenneth-Kaunda » Jul 05, 2012 8:25 am

The day God left the building... ;)
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#16  Postby Kenneth-Kaunda » Jul 05, 2012 8:29 am

Spearthrower wrote:
Does having a good character entitle someone to getting every woman they encounter?

Surely attraction is not as simple as 'he's good, therefore I accept his advances'.


Not every woman should accept his advances, but at least 1 ought to.

So if no woman he ever encountered were to accept him, then I think it would be fair to resent womankind to some degree - it's the ego at work here, self-preservation etc..

Let's say the man was a righteous fellow, filled with what he believed to be the love of God - then shouldn't he be accepted for his positive spiritual outlook - or is the mating game just a case of me, me , me?
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#17  Postby babel » Jul 05, 2012 9:01 am

Kenneth-Kaunda wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
Does having a good character entitle someone to getting every woman they encounter?

Surely attraction is not as simple as 'he's good, therefore I accept his advances'.


Not every woman should accept his advances, but at least 1 ought to.
Why? From the goodness of her heart? Act of compassion of some sorts? I don't think you quite grasp the concept of 'love'.
Kenneth-Kaunda wrote:So if no woman he ever encountered were to accept him, then I think it would be fair to resent womankind to some degree - it's the ego at work here, self-preservation etc..

Let's say the man was a righteous fellow, filled with what he believed to be the love of God - then shouldn't he be accepted for his positive spiritual outlook - or is the mating game just a case of me, me , me?
Excellent idea. Resentment towards the gender you expect love from is a know aphrodisiac.
Hint: the woman you meet tomorrow isn't to blame for all the women that turned you down.
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#18  Postby LucidFlight » Jul 05, 2012 10:20 am

I prefer to use the term incompatible.
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#19  Postby ElDiablo » Jul 05, 2012 12:40 pm

Kenneth-Kaunda wrote:
Not every woman should accept his advances, but at least 1 ought to.

1 in how many?


So if no woman he ever encountered were to accept him, then I think it would be fair to resent womankind to some degree - it's the ego at work here, self-preservation etc..

You seem to be the common element in the rejection. Why condemn all women?


Let's say the man was a righteous fellow, filled with what he believed to be the love of God - then shouldn't he be accepted for his positive spiritual outlook - or is the mating game just a case of me, me , me?

This is a rather naive view of the dating game; a sure indication that you have limited experience with people in general.
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#20  Postby DavidMcC » Jul 05, 2012 12:42 pm

Fenrir wrote:This thread is not good enough for me to post in.


So why did you? :shock: :lol:
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