With great amounts of money comes great amounts of responsibility but I welcome the challenge. Honestly, the very first time I saw a lotto pay out that was $1000 a day for 20 years, one of my very first thoughts was, "Wow, I could develope a serious chemical dependency on that kind of money".

I'd take the $50 million, build myself a nice, well-equipped lab, and do medical research.

Yeah, "medical" research. Uh huh.

TMB wrote:There are some studies where they followed the fortunes of lottery winners - will try and find this. Here is an interesting reference to lottery winners happiness levels and accident victims.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/690806

They found that mostly they wer worse off than before. The issues seemed to be the inabaility to manage the money on the basis they did not have the experience to know how to moderate their spending usually betwen capital and operating cost - ie. buying a home for $5m is quite easy, however it might take another $500k to run the house each year, and many winners were unable to manage the ongoing cost of their expensive assets. I knew a man who lost both wealth parents when he was in his early 20's. He bought himself an expensive car, a helicopter and boat. 30 years on I believe he now has much less, presumably because he was unable to handle that quantity of money.

The people I know who won lottery have found their teenage kids think life will be easy (they did not tell the kids) as Mum does not work, Dad has an easy job and they lstill ive a great life - ergo you dont need to work to live the good life. They fell out with the friends they shared the winning ticket with, spent wildly for the first few years, left the city they were in because of this, nearly split as a couple and moved cities to start a new life. Now they live a more moderate lifestyle (aside from the kids attitude to money) - they won $4m split between 2 couples - $2m per family.
The $30m winner was busted by the press. He pulled his son from school to avoid kidnap ransom, moves suburbs and now spends his time managing the money, has bought a flash house and car, but lives among peoplpe who have far more than he does so has some perspective.

I think giving money to friends would create issues. How much do you give. to whom, do you judge how they spend it, what if you run out of money, is it still really your money?

Dan Gilbert, I think, uses similar data in his TED talk on synthesized happiness: Dan Gilbert asks, Why are we happy? - http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_as ... happy.html

He has another one touching the subject: Dan Gilbert on our mistaken expectations - http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_re ... iness.html

This reminds me of the other thread of yours TMB asking women if they would engage in polygyny with someone rich, handsome and famous if they had the chance. As much as it is an interesting subject over a couple of beers, I still maintain that hypothetical questions have hypothetical answers only and hypothetical answers are of a little value. In other words, what people say and what would they actually do is not necessarily the same thing.

Well, $50 mil, and I'd spend it with/on mamasitas, because data suggest that it is what I do with money.

I'd take 50 millions and burn it. The whole of it. Seriously.

Grimstad wrote:Yeah, "medical" research. Uh huh.

All right, and create a few interesting weird and freaky mutant monsters too. A guy's got to have a hobby, after all.

TMB wrote:Suppose you were to win the lottery, but instead of receiving a specific amount, you had to choose between 3 amounts. $1m, $5m and $50 million. Which amount would you chose and why?

Note that I have chosen the amounts in that each should make a significant difference to your life but whereas $1m might allow you to retire 10 years earlier, startup a business, pay off debt it might not affect your circle of friends, lifestyle, job etc. $5m would allow you to totally transform you life, new car, house, holiday house, overseas hoolidays, immediate retirement and could mean leaving all your old friends and neighbourhoods, life etc for a totally new one.

$50m is an amount that most people would not understand how exactly to spend and its potential to destroy is high.

Consider how your winnings might affect your children and how they value money, your friends (if you tell them), if you give money away see how this gift might affect the friendship of people who you gave money to.

I know two instances where people have won lotteries, the one was $30m, the other $4m, and am able to watch the $4m story unfold, the $30m I have limited visibility of. Note that the history of past lottery winners is filled with bankruptcy, suicide, heartbreak as they struggle to handle the corrupting power of money.

Make your choice.

50 mil since after tax I'd have about 30 mil.

A nice house in Paris would go for at least 5 mil.

A nice house in the US somewhere would be at least 1 mil.

A few political and scientific causes would collect a cool 10 mil total.

We'd have 14 mil left and live off it.

I doubt we'd go bankrupt, get divorced, or commit suicide. We're pretty well-grounded and have no addictive gambling behavior, etc.

tuco wrote:

TMB wrote:There are some studies where they followed the fortunes of lottery winners - will try and find this. Here is an interesting reference to lottery winners happiness levels and accident victims.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/690806

They found that mostly they wer worse off than before. The issues seemed to be the inabaility to manage the money on the basis they did not have the experience to know how to moderate their spending usually betwen capital and operating cost - ie. buying a home for $5m is quite easy, however it might take another $500k to run the house each year, and many winners were unable to manage the ongoing cost of their expensive assets. I knew a man who lost both wealth parents when he was in his early 20's. He bought himself an expensive car, a helicopter and boat. 30 years on I believe he now has much less, presumably because he was unable to handle that quantity of money.

The people I know who won lottery have found their teenage kids think life will be easy (they did not tell the kids) as Mum does not work, Dad has an easy job and they lstill ive a great life - ergo you dont need to work to live the good life. They fell out with the friends they shared the winning ticket with, spent wildly for the first few years, left the city they were in because of this, nearly split as a couple and moved cities to start a new life. Now they live a more moderate lifestyle (aside from the kids attitude to money) - they won $4m split between 2 couples - $2m per family.
The $30m winner was busted by the press. He pulled his son from school to avoid kidnap ransom, moves suburbs and now spends his time managing the money, has bought a flash house and car, but lives among peoplpe who have far more than he does so has some perspective.

I think giving money to friends would create issues. How much do you give. to whom, do you judge how they spend it, what if you run out of money, is it still really your money?

Dan Gilbert, I think, uses similar data in his TED talk on synthesized happiness: Dan Gilbert asks, Why are we happy? - http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_as ... happy.html

He has another one touching the subject: Dan Gilbert on our mistaken expectations - http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_re ... iness.html

This reminds me of the other thread of yours TMB asking women if they would engage in polygyny with someone rich, handsome and famous if they had the chance. As much as it is an interesting subject over a couple of beers, I still maintain that hypothetical questions have hypothetical answers only and hypothetical answers are of a little value. In other words, what people say and what would they actually do is not necessarily the same thing.

Well, $50 mil, and I'd spend it with/on mamasitas, because data suggest that it is what I do with money.

Very interesting clips of Dan Gilbert.

On your comment of hypotheticals I find subjects that demonstrate just how different peoples hypothetical and actual reactions are to be interesting and when these dichotomies occur, to see if people can be challenged to try and think the gap between actual and theory a bit smaler. Much of this arises because on many subjects some people have eperienced the actual while others have not.

On the lottery, while I have not experienced the actual I know a couple very well who have and I have seen the challenges it imposes.

On the hypothesis of women being attracted to wealthy, powerful men and being prepared to share with other women. The knee jerk reaction is outrage that this violates a pervasive feminist view that this somehow devalues women, yet watching female groupies do just this with celebrities weakens the hypothetical position.

Stanley Milgrams experiments on obedience showed a huge rift between how people thought they would act, as opposed to how they did act. In my mind these differences are caused by a subtle social mechanism that exists to make people live in a highly illusory society and is a reason why humans have managed to live successfully in such large groups. If there was less difference between our perception of reality than reality itself, I suggest it is unlikely we would be able to exist in such large communities.

Its a subject that fascinates me and many of my posts on this forum reflect the idea that this social mechanism underlies our behavior.

Some of the sorry tales we hear about stem from the dislocation winners feel, for example; a 40 something couple from a modest background - most of their friends are in their pay-scale, take similar breaks, are workers in the same factory/office/etc - winners lose that familiarity as the money changes everything. They move to an affluent area, immediately leaving familiar grounds & neighbours; give up work, quickly losing friends who have 'real-world' issues still. They are alone. They get bored of the lack of routine. They fight.
They should give ME the green. I have never had any money, know exactly what to do with it & have no issues with jealous friends (I keep just a few friends these days) & workmates I have are better off than me anyhow.
There is a lady who has been effectively my Aunty for ever, she still works and is in her 70s, she gets the max allowed as a 'gift', £70,000 in the UK, I think. That's sort her out, give her a break and allow her to leave something for her grandson.
My best friend is autistic ('spergers), I know he'd panic if I gave him money (some benefits malarky) so I'd buy him a flat of his own and a camper van and give him a small allowance and a holiday a year.
Mother needs little but to retire, so she gets the 'max gift' annually, or £1 Mill. Her choice.
Sister needs for little but I'd offer her same as mother, so she has choices she'd chew over.

Me? I know I could travel permanently, hotel it forever, but life needs a pattern - eventually. I want these:
This Island I need. A home in Chelsea. A home in LA. The house next to my sisters, so I get to visit the whole family whenever. A home on a Mediterranean Isle, but maybe the whole Isle if it's cheap enuff not silly money.
Next I need something to do, my daily/weekly routine. I like weight lifting but find it hard to focus because I need to earn a crust, so I'd open a gym and get me a trainer, but I'd get in one of those Arnold types as I really like the Mariusz Pudzianowski look. Also this gym isn't a crappy hotel-gym or a posh-gits-only Cannons, no namby-pamby crap; it also funds the staff a good wage because I don't need the money in my pocket.
Social life: my mega-gym is nextdoor to my nightclub. So now I have a job & my social life sorted. Not many people find themselves work with their bucks, I would do this so I don't go mad.
The party: I really want to do this one day. I organise a party on Drake's Island, entry fee to BHA or similar, I want to get in some great bands to play a few songs. I won't chose yet, but there needs to be a good mix. Some classical, jazz-fusion, some dance and rock. Hell, it'll be a weekend to treasure! Everyone I know from RDF gets return ticket from wherever you live, that'd be nice. Booze is on me, for us, cheap to the rest. Profits to BHA.
I do choose the £50 million, 1 or 3 won't cut it or allow me to properly help the few others I care for.

There's more but I want a smoke now

The obvious answer is to buy part ownership in an adult video company.

I hear that they're not handing out the lump sum here anymore, they make you take an "income." So basically you rely on the organisation remaining viable while they control the amount of money you're doled out and if they go broke or a new regime rules the country that deems a lottery to be the work of Satan, and bam, your money is gone. I'd demand that the money be invested in an organisation of my choice and that I get the interest, not the lottery organisers. But boy I'd love to have a flat in Cape Town, one in Joh'burg and one in London, New York, LA, French Riviera, so I could fly around the world whenever I choose and allow my family to use them.

mattwilson wrote:The money doesn't make them miserable, just like the money doesn't make people happy.

Money gives options, good and bad, and it's the options people take that decide their fate.

I would take $1m to enjoy with my friends and family. That’s enough for me.

I'll have the 50. Need half that amount to get the mono-rail built in my secret lair.

I would also take the $50 million. I would take one million to make my own and my family's lives a little easier, and the other $49m which translates into R381 billion, half to build schools and the other half into a trust fund to pay the salaries of the teachers employed there, in my country.

I'd pick 50 million, and start a small restaurant or tavern. Unimaginative, yes, I suppose, but I've wanted to run my own restaurant since I was small.

As a bonus, I'd have a small child tell me three ingredients and make a delicious meal based on those three ingredients.

Exactly Zulu, which is why I would build schools and create a Trust to pay the teachers, one of whom would be my son, he would be in charge of the Trust and he would be in charge of seeing that the schools were properly run. Education is a major deal with me. That story about the kids who swim to and from school every day, broke my heart. i wish I had the ability to find someone who could build a bridge for them.