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I'm With Stupid wrote:Sparta Prague duo to train with women after saying they 'belong at the stove'
Two Sparta Prague players have been ordered to train with Sparta's women's team after telling a female assistant referee "women belong at the stove”.
Goalkeeper Tomas Koubek and midfielder Lukas Vacha apologised for insulting Lucie Ratajova, who was one of the officials during Sparta's 3-3 draw with Brno on Sunday.
Koubek, speaking after the match, said women "belong at the stove" and "should not officiate men's football."
Sparta's director general Adam Kotalik said: "The players will spend several days with the club's female side so that they can be made aware that women have plenty of worth outside the kitchen."
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Scarlett wrote:Ooooh, would that be the upper echelons of "mansplaining"?
tuco wrote:I'm With Stupid wrote:Sparta Prague duo to train with women after saying they 'belong at the stove'
Two Sparta Prague players have been ordered to train with Sparta's women's team after telling a female assistant referee "women belong at the stove”.
Goalkeeper Tomas Koubek and midfielder Lukas Vacha apologised for insulting Lucie Ratajova, who was one of the officials during Sparta's 3-3 draw with Brno on Sunday.
Koubek, speaking after the match, said women "belong at the stove" and "should not officiate men's football."
Sparta's director general Adam Kotalik said: "The players will spend several days with the club's female side so that they can be made aware that women have plenty of worth outside the kitchen."
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wow it made news .. anyway, there is more to this story or context - the match itself, club(s) in question, history of female referees in league, history of whole country - but I will not bother with details/interpretations. Let me just say that over here society is not as progressive as lets say in Norway and when I say society it means women included. All in all not a good example for OP imo.
Is there innate need ..? How do we figure? Its not like we can see it in DNA under microscope or is it? Perhaps male aggression is innate, male need to display certain kind of behaviour in given environment but innate need to have own space? I dunno. Moving on, I am basically in agreement with opinion of Rachel Bronwyn, and others like her.
pelfdaddy wrote:Men are not threatened by women. Period.
I have never met a man who is.
I cannot imagine what the experience of feeling threatened by a woman would be like.
This phenomenon does not exist.
pelfdaddy wrote:I deeply respect The_Metatron, and will not respond to his insult in kind. Nor am I being deliberately provocative. I simply read the opening post and thought "The answer to 'why' men are threatened by women is...they aren't".
The "Entire societies and world views that subjugate women" certainly exist, and I detest them. These conditions come about through culture, religion, biology and tradition. But that is only stating the obvious.
These conditions do not persist because men are threatened by women.
pelfdaddy wrote:It's a fun question to think about really............................
[snip the bit about the perceived 'threat' coming from the men 'in power', because they are traditionally the ones who seem to feel the most threatened]
But the OP is not even talking about primitive cultures. The question seems to be along the lines of, why do modern men in our own relatively advanced culture perceive women to be a threat? Thousands of paragraphs could be spent in the exploration of "why" men sometimes resist what women would think of as an even playing field, but I just don't think that "threat" is a part of it.
pelfdaddy wrote:
An inability to list many other sources of the problem having nothing to do with a perceived threat seems to be a result of not trying very hard.
pelfdaddy wrote:Men are not threatened by women. Period.
I have never met a man who is.
I cannot imagine what the experience of feeling threatened by a woman would be like.
This phenomenon does not exist.
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