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Do you think non-white ethnicities integrate well in UK?

#1  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 27, 2017 9:42 pm

Seems to me Muslims, blacks, orientals, poles, Asians etc. tend to group together in the uk and do not integrate into white british society. I remember once going to a warehouse on the outskirts of gloucester with a mixed race girl I'd met in town. When we arrived I realised I was the only white person there out of a crowd of some 200. They were all black. Where were the white faces, or the faces of any other ethnicity other than black, or more to the point, why weren't these black faces distributed proportionally amongst the white majority? Incidentally, once the venue closed and I was leaving, somebody cracked me over the head with a bottle so I walked home covered in blood. Nice.
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#2  Postby VazScep » Feb 27, 2017 9:50 pm

Keep It Real wrote:Seems to me Muslims, blacks, orientals, poles, Asians etc. tend to group together in the uk and do not integrate into white british society. I remember once going to a warehouse on the outskirts of gloucester with a mixed race girl I'd met in town. When we arrived I realised I was the only white person there out of a crowd of some 200. They were all black. Where were the white faces, or the faces of any other ethnicity other than black, or more to the point, why weren't these black faces distributed proportionally amongst the white majority? Incidentally, once the venue closed and I was leaving, somebody cracked me over the head with a bottle so I walked home covered in blood. Nice.
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#3  Postby LucidFlight » Feb 27, 2017 9:51 pm

Tell me about it. Where I live, there are hardly any Polish shops. I have to go all the way across town to buy kiełbasa and Paluszki.
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#4  Postby VazScep » Feb 27, 2017 10:03 pm

LucidFlight wrote:Tell me about it. Where I live, there are hardly any Polish shops. I have to go all the way across town to buy kiełbasa and Paluszki.
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#5  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 27, 2017 10:04 pm

I couldn't fit "British" into the thread title.
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#6  Postby VazScep » Feb 27, 2017 10:07 pm

Keep It Real wrote:I couldn't fit "British" into the thread title.
Don't worry, alpha dude. Use whatever labels you want. Nobody here expects much from people who confuse anecdotes for sociological data-points and asks in a proto-science forum what people "think".
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#7  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Feb 27, 2017 10:11 pm

Oh gob.
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#8  Postby Pebble » Feb 27, 2017 10:13 pm

Keep It Real wrote:Seems to me Muslims, blacks, orientals, poles, Asians etc. tend to group together in the uk and do not integrate into white british society. I remember once going to a warehouse on the outskirts of gloucester with a mixed race girl I'd met in town. When we arrived I realised I was the only white person there out of a crowd of some 200. They were all black. Where were the white faces, or the faces of any other ethnicity other than black, or more to the point, why weren't these black faces distributed proportionally amongst the white majority? Incidentally, once the venue closed and I was leaving, somebody cracked me over the head with a bottle so I walked home covered in blood. Nice.


Do you think the white English facilitate integration or encourage non locals to seek more accommodating company?
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#9  Postby felltoearth » Feb 27, 2017 10:30 pm

Talking about integration problems...
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#10  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 27, 2017 10:33 pm

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Keep It Real wrote:Seems to me Muslims, blacks, orientals, poles, Asians etc. tend to group together in the uk and do not integrate into white british society. I remember once going to a warehouse on the outskirts of gloucester with a mixed race girl I'd met in town. When we arrived I realised I was the only white person there out of a crowd of some 200. They were all black. Where were the white faces, or the faces of any other ethnicity other than black, or more to the point, why weren't these black faces distributed proportionally amongst the white majority? Incidentally, once the venue closed and I was leaving, somebody cracked me over the head with a bottle so I walked home covered in blood. Nice.


Do you think the white English facilitate integration or encourage non locals to seek more accommodating company?


Seems to me the different ethnicities tend to prefer to stick with their own ethnic group in general, so I presume that goes for the white English too. Something to do with genetic and cultural proximity and feeling comfortable.
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#11  Postby Mazille » Feb 27, 2017 10:36 pm

I can see no way how this could go wrong.
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#12  Postby VazScep » Feb 27, 2017 10:37 pm

Keep It Real wrote:Seems to me the different ethnicities tend to prefer to stick with their own ethnic group in general, so I presume that goes for the white English too. Something to do with genetic and cultural proximity and feeling comfortable.
If I cared about hanging out with people of genetic proximity, I'd only associate with my immediate family. I've no clue how the average whitey relates to me in terms of genetics, aside from knowing that we're both shite at producing melanin.
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#13  Postby Thommo » Feb 27, 2017 10:41 pm

If you're really interested in the debate over the success or failure of multiculturalism (as distinct from multiracialism), I would recommend to you the various documentaries and columns Trevor Phillips has been involved in over the last couple of years.

That's about the only semi-constructive reply I can come up with.
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#14  Postby Weaver » Feb 27, 2017 10:42 pm

I have a rule.

Any time someone starts off their discussion by saying "I'm not a racist but ...", I start off by assuming that they're a racist. It isn't 100% foolproof - but it seems to be highly effective, and saves me a whole lot of time listening to racist bullshit from racists.

I make no claim that this rule applies to the OP himself - but, as others have noted, there is evident racism in the OP content.
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#15  Postby felltoearth » Feb 27, 2017 10:43 pm

In the Canadian context, mind. Not sure how much different things are in England.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2009/0 ... u_fit.html
Crunching thousands of numbers from 41,666 people interviewed in nine languages, the just-published study found skin colour – not religion, not income – was the biggest barrier to immigrants feeling they belonged here. And the darker the skin, the greater the alienation.
"We were surprised that religion didn't have more effect," said lead author Jeffrey Reitz. "It came down to race, with Asian people reporting some and with young black males the most stigmatized. The data is consistent with that.
"We tend to believe racism is a minor problem in Canada, of little consequence. Someone looked at them funny. Or that many immigrants are doing well, so it must be their fault if they aren't. There is a reluctance to investigate the issue."
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#16  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Feb 27, 2017 10:45 pm

I feel like some sentient force should paralyze fingers or slam mouths shut whenever the words, "I'm not racist but" are uttered. Soon as that word "but" comes out, one's ability to continue expressing that sentiment should vanish.
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#17  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 27, 2017 10:47 pm

Weaver wrote:I have a rule.

Any time someone starts off their discussion by saying "I'm not a racist but ...", I start off by assuming that they're a racist. It isn't 100% foolproof - but it seems to be highly effective, and saves me a whole lot of time listening to racist bullshit from racists.

I make no claim that this rule applies to the OP himself - but, as others have noted, there is evident racism in the OP content.


There is?! Please, enlighten us.
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#18  Postby felltoearth » Feb 27, 2017 10:50 pm

Keep It Real wrote:
Weaver wrote:I have a rule.

Any time someone starts off their discussion by saying "I'm not a racist but ...", I start off by assuming that they're a racist. It isn't 100% foolproof - but it seems to be highly effective, and saves me a whole lot of time listening to racist bullshit from racists.

I make no claim that this rule applies to the OP himself - but, as others have noted, there is evident racism in the OP content.


There is?! Please, enlighten us.


From the first sentence of the OP.

Seems to me Muslims, blacks, orientals, poles, Asians etc. tend to group together in the uk and do not integrate into white british society.
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#19  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 27, 2017 10:53 pm

How is that racist?
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#20  Postby felltoearth » Feb 27, 2017 10:55 pm

Keep It Real wrote:How is that racist?

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