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Re: The Germans

#21  Postby HomerJay » Aug 14, 2013 4:48 pm

Regina wrote:There's quite a bit of bollocks in that list, the main one being that there is such a thing as being "German" which goes beyond holding a German passport and speaking (vaguely) the same language.
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Yes, lots of firms might just allow mobile usage, while some UK firms similarly ban them.

Also the english is not great.

Make Me A German

A German what?

Make Me German would be better.

Also the woman who came round to show the wifey how to cook and clean said that english people call Germans, Krauts because they eat Sauerkraut.

Then when a bunch of native Germans came to dinner the guy made (or unpacked) Sauerkraut.

In England if you throw packets of bacon at muslims you will be arrested for racism, if I throw packets of Sauerkraut at Germans would they consider it racist?
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Re: The Germans

#22  Postby campermon » Aug 14, 2013 4:50 pm

NineBerry wrote:I don't think they have the Herdprämie in the programme. It has just started and is a big flop because hardly anyone registered to receive it. @campermoon: In what way were stay at home mums supported in the documentary?


They talked about tax breaks.
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Re: The Germans

#23  Postby surreptitious57 » Aug 14, 2013 5:01 pm

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campermon : In what way were stay at home mums supported in the documentary

It was stated that there are just two per cent of German women in senior management positions compared to fourteen per cent here : The impression is that German men go out to work and German women stay at home with the children : If they went to work also presumably the unemployment rate would rise : And no one would be at home to do the four hours eleven minutes of house work every day : I was left with the impression that feminism has not really caught on in Germany in spite there being a female Chancellor : Incidentally Russian tank production in Ninteeen Forty Two was quadruple that of German tank production because Stalin had no problem about employing female workers while Hitler was dead against it : So this is apparemtly nothing new : There appears to be very strict gender demarcation then where as over here we are rather liberal about all of that : Half of all our doctors for example are female and we also send more of our female students to university

But this was just one English couple spending a month in a German city [ Nuremberg ] That is not enough time now to really understand them : So one can just get a very general perception of what they are like : The police coming round to tell them
to be quiet on Sunday was bizarre how ever : That would never happen over here in the middle of the day : Because you can make as much noise as you like between the hours of seven a m and eleven p m : That is the law : So any Germans thinking of emigrating to England be warned : No one gets fined on Sundays for being loud : A lot of the English do not believe in God anyway and Muslims worship on Friday so the point is academic : I listen to Planet Rock on Sundays and have it nice an loud : No police coming round to fine me : Absolutely not : Oh and our shops are open all day too : Some even for twenty four hours
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Re: The Germans

#24  Postby I'm With Stupid » Aug 14, 2013 5:11 pm

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Re: The Germans

#25  Postby HomerJay » Aug 14, 2013 6:15 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:But this was just one English couple spending a month in a German city [ Nuremberg ]

I liked the way they said Nuremberg, after which the Nuremberg rallies were called.

If the rallies had been held in Nuremberg but called the Hamburg rallies, that would've just been confusing.
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Re: The Germans

#26  Postby Regina » Aug 14, 2013 6:33 pm

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It was stated that there are just two per cent of German women in senior management positions compared to fourteen per cent here : The impression is that German men go out to work and German women stay at home with the children :

The number of women in senior positions has nothing to do with the general employment rate of women.
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Re: The Germans

#27  Postby Regina » Aug 14, 2013 6:41 pm

surr wrote:
There appears to be very strict gender demarcation then where as over here we are rather liberal about all of that : Half of all our doctors for example are female and we also send more of our female students to university

48% of all students are female, more than 60% of all medical students are female.
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Re: The Germans

#28  Postby laklak » Aug 14, 2013 8:23 pm

CdesignProponentsist wrote:Shouldn't the title of this thread be "Zee Germans"?


I zink it shute be "Zee Chermans".
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Re: The Germans

#29  Postby Regina » Aug 14, 2013 8:26 pm

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CdesignProponentsist wrote:Shouldn't the title of this thread be "Zee Germans"?


I zink it shute be "Zee Chermans".

Misogynist. Cherwomans.
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Re: The Germans

#30  Postby Varangian » Aug 14, 2013 8:53 pm

Regina wrote:
laklak wrote:
CdesignProponentsist wrote:Shouldn't the title of this thread be "Zee Germans"?


I zink it shute be "Zee Chermans".

Misogynist. Cherwomans.


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Re: The Germans

#31  Postby laklak » Aug 14, 2013 8:57 pm

Cherborg.

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Re: The Germans

#32  Postby NineBerry » Aug 14, 2013 9:29 pm

There are tax exempts for parents independent of whether both parents work or not.
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#33  Postby NineBerry » Aug 14, 2013 9:33 pm

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Re: The Germans

#34  Postby NineBerry » Aug 14, 2013 9:37 pm

HomerJay wrote:Then when a bunch of native Germans came to dinner the guy made (or unpacked) Sauerkraut.

In England if you throw packets of bacon at muslims you will be arrested for racism, if I throw packets of Sauerkraut at Germans would they consider it racist?


Eh, Muslims usually don't eat bacon while Germans mostly like Sauerkraut.
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#35  Postby NineBerry » Aug 14, 2013 9:45 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:The police coming round to tell them to be quiet on Sunday was bizarre how ever : That would never happen over here in the middle of the day : Because you can make as much noise as you like between the hours of seven a m and eleven p m : That is the law : So any Germans thinking of emigrating to England be warned : No one gets fined on Sundays for being loud : A lot of the English do not believe in God anyway and Muslims worship on Friday so the point is academic : I listen to Planet Rock on Sundays and have it nice an loud : No police coming round to fine me : Absolutely not : Oh and our shops are open all day too : Some even for twenty four hours


In most parts of Germany, shops are now allowed to open around the clock as well. Except for Sundays that is. The Sunday is a very important institution in Germany. It's even in the constitution. Shops won't be allowed to open on Sundays unless there is some day a two third majority in parliament to change the constitution. And that is very unlikely in the near future. I think this is so important because it is basically the only thing that the two big social forces (the churches and the workers' unions) can agree on. So neither the conservatives nor the social democrats or socialists will allow anything to happen to the Sunday.
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Re: The Germans

#36  Postby Evolving » Aug 14, 2013 10:29 pm

In Munich even the newspaper kiosks on the Marienplatz are closed on Sundays. When a holiday like the 6th Jan, the 15th August, the 1st November falls on a Saturday, the shops are closed on that day too; and I would often forget and realise on Saturday morning that we had nothing to eat for the weekend. There was a shop open at the railway station, but mainly with packets and tins and a very little fruit; for proper food I'd have to get the train out to the airport, go to the supermarket there and bring it all on the train back home. But I would be honouring the sabbath all the way there and all the way back.

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Re: The Germans

#37  Postby NineBerry » Aug 14, 2013 10:44 pm

It's fun around Easter and Christmas when there are additional holidays in short succession.

At Easter, the shops are closed on Good Friday, then open on Saturday, then closed on Easter Sunday and Easter Monday.

At Christmas, the 24th is a half holiday, the shops will close at noon or shortly after noon.
The 25th and 26th are complete holidays. The 31st is again a half holiday and January 1st is a full holiday.
Last year, we had the following:

Su Dec 23rd Shops closed because Sunday
Mo Dec 24rd Shops only opened half day because of Christmas Eve
Tue Dec 25th Shops closed because of Christmas Holiday 1
Wed Dec 26th Shops closed because of Christmas Holiday 2
Thu Dec 27th Shops opened
Fr Dec 28th Shops opened
Sa Dec 29th Shops opened
Su Dec 30th Shops closed because of Sunday
Mon Dec 31th Shops only opened half day because of New Year's Eve
Tue Jan 1st Shops closed because of New Year Holiday
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#38  Postby NineBerry » Aug 14, 2013 10:49 pm

Evolving wrote:In Munich even the newspaper kiosks on the Marienplatz are closed on Sundays.


Last year, the Berlin state parliament made a law that would have allowed corner kiosks (so called "Spätis") to open on Sundays. But the law was declared unconstitutional by the constitutional court.
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Re: The Germans

#39  Postby gib » Aug 14, 2013 10:51 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:Saw a documentary on BBC 2 on Monday : Make Me A German

And so learned some interesting facts about our Teutonic cousins

They work one hour less than the English though still produce more

They also have more vacation time too at thirty holiday days per year

They are not allowed to surf the internet or to use their mobiles at work

German women expected to do four hours eleven minutes housework a day

They are not to have large families and not supposed to go out to work either

But those that do go out to work are not as respected as those who stay at home

Most Germans rent and are not as obsessed about owning property as the English are

Also unlike the English prefer cash to credit cards so believe in living within their means

Germany the largest exporter of cars in the world but most Germans still drive German ones

German children start school at six and before that attend forest nurseries purely for recreation

Germans value engineers much as doctors or lawyers and many do not go to uni but straight to work

On Sundays shops are shut and any noise in your house can result in the polIce fining you for disrespect

German football clubs are majority owned by the fans and not by Russian oligarchs or American millionaires


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Re: The Germans

#40  Postby NineBerry » Aug 14, 2013 11:06 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:
Also unlike the English prefer cash to credit cards so believe in living within their means


Actually, we use debit cards instead of credit cards. In Germany, nearly every point of sale accepts debit cards of a German bank but very few accept credit cards.
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