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The Most Important Things For Progress Now

#1  Postby Someone » Feb 14, 2011 5:52 am

I'll begin with the sub-topic. It's chosen to guard against what I feel would be a derail, in the event somebody wants to add her or his own 10th item to this list of priorities. Should people choose to debate others, that's understandable, but I won't participate. Also, discussion of how some two of them are intertwined will not interest me, primarily because that begins the process of expanding the list. These are listed, more or less, with what I regard as most important first. The first should not be discussed on this thread at all, but is needed to complete the list. Note that I regard population management as extremely important, but feel it's not required as a direct priority, with some of the following expected to aid in removing it from the table. Other issues that are already weighted heavily enough, in my opinion, compared with these, or that can also be expected to be aided in their resolution by these 9, are not of concern here except through their relationship to these.
1) Ensuring Carbon-Dioxide release limits through a combination of efficiencies, conservation, and substitution.
2) Promotion of gender (first and foremost) equality.
3) Promoting our escape from myth (by making their history and false justifications known so that people don't buy and sell them, with certain inevitable changes in power structures that people can be expected to have to prepare for).
4) Expanding peacekeeping operations in order to completely end war and bring out the best in people (as well as save lives, which for hypothetical dead people should be regarded as somewhat connected). People may not be aware of this, but United Nations peacekeepers were awarded the Nobel Peace prize one year despite the fact such prizes usually go to individuals and small groups.
5) Deconstruction of the definition of the family and ideal household, with goals of this ending the tendency toward insularity, increasing social mobility, and removing people from hostage situations or status (This one is somewhat complex and relates closely to another on this list, but it's best to discuss it separately).
6) Connecting education explicitly with societal goals and expanding its role, while also removing the profit motive (The reason for placing this on the list is that it's a necessary, but not guaranteed, benefit of new media).
7) Balancing the need society has to correct malefactors with the complementary need to also forgive them (This is an old issue that has never been given adequate attention for complicated reasons. It has loose connections to the above goal on war-ending).
8) Making the relationship between past, present, and future a science (Some will say it already is, and some will say it can never be. I'm interested in giving adequate weight to this topic, but not over-emphasizing it).
9) Generating a constant awareness of the need to both set priorities and be willing to change them when an issue no longer requires vigilance (or is established as having been resolved).

In order to get an understanding of my my basis--personally (why I, particularly, am presenting such a list)--for declaring these, I recommend a reading of my main thread in the 'Pseudoscience' section, Unbelievable Mathematics, from my last post backward, and read the first post of another thread entitled (under 'Supernatural and Paranormal') List 3 Coincidences You Know Of (For Debunking?).
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Re: The Most Important Things For Progress Now

#2  Postby MrFungus420 » Feb 14, 2011 6:40 am

That's nice.

Good luck dictating your rules to everyone like that...
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#3  Postby Someone » Feb 14, 2011 6:45 am

MrFungus420 wrote:That's nice.

Good luck dictating your rules to everyone like that...

Thanks. I'll probably need that for the rules on the Miracle Scheme (things about family constitution construction and stuff). The above aren't rules, though. Any topic interest you there, or was it a troll?
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Re: The Most Important Things For Progress Now

#4  Postby z8000783 » Feb 14, 2011 7:08 am

If this is important to you and I presume it is, you may want to go back over the OP and proof read the English.

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#5  Postby Someone » Feb 14, 2011 8:04 am

I had made a lot of small fixes one at a time, but didn't see the forest for the trees. Good advice; thanks.
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Re: The Most Important Things For Progress Now

#6  Postby Someone » Feb 15, 2011 9:09 pm

Not many people on this website, and probably under 20% of these stray into Sociology, but I'm wondering from silence if
A) My English still sucks,
B) Anybody's thinking about but hasn't gotten around to posting,
C) It looks boring to talk about,
D) It's received as a call to action that shouldn't be talked about so much as done, or
E) Some other reason it's quiet.
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Re: The Most Important Things For Progress Now

#7  Postby MrFungus420 » Feb 16, 2011 5:02 am

Maybe because everything that you listed is political.
Maybe because discussions work best when they are about one subject. In other words, pick one subject and start a thread about it.
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#8  Postby Someone » Feb 16, 2011 11:49 am

MrFungus420 wrote:Maybe because everything that you listed is political.
Maybe because discussions work best when they are about one subject. In other words, pick one subject and start a thread about it.


Well, thanks for the answer. I'm going to sleep now and it's clear which would be first, if you're interested. I'll do it if you or somebody else doesn't. Remember to mention it here, at least. Link is better, but people can find it.
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Re: The Most Important Things For Progress Now

#9  Postby Someone » Mar 02, 2011 6:11 pm

Okay, I've posted a thread I've titled badly as 'Are Warfare, Homophobia and Misogyny Intertwined?' in this section.
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Re: The Most Important Things For Progress Now

#10  Postby gleniedee » Mar 05, 2011 11:35 pm

@MR Samsa

A rather presumptuous list. You seem to be suffering from a delusion of adequacy. :coffee:

What is important to me in life:


My basic needs; food, shelter, health, having a mind which works quite well. What makes those things matter; loving and feeling loved.I have little interest in "the planet"* or anonymous others

I had about 25 years of left wing activism starting when I was 16. A member of the Australian Labor Party for over 30 years and union activist all of my working life... I accomplished the ability to behave like an insufferable prig and nothing else. These days there is no 'big issue' cause or ideology to which I will give my money or my time.



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*Human beings will continue greedily,stupidly making the planet uninhabitable for themselves and will go extinct sooner rather than later.This will be a good thing for the planet and other species. This is purely academic of course. I did my bit by not breeding. With any luck I'll be dead before any of the issues mentioned reach the point of personal inconvenience. I really,truly,could not care less what happens after I'm dead.
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#11  Postby Mr.Samsa » Mar 06, 2011 4:25 am

gleniedee wrote:@MR Samsa ...


:whisper: I think you mean "Someone" (the OP) and not me (since I haven't commented in this thread yet).
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Re: The Most Important Things For Progress Now

#12  Postby gleniedee » Mar 06, 2011 4:47 am

Mr.Samsa wrote:
gleniedee wrote:@MR Samsa ...


:whisper: I think you mean "Someone" (the OP) and not me (since I haven't commented in this thread yet).



Oh,yes. Mea culpa, :oops:
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Re: The Most Important Things For Progress Now

#13  Postby Someone » Apr 30, 2011 4:44 pm

0. Fight for a comprehension of the meaning of abstract 'things'. For example, 'Deep Green' is out there. It is not going anywhere. What's the right way if it's useful? Some kind of backfire against canibalism, or restoring marshlands and getting people who live there to work with various bounty hunters, perhaps. I DO NOT THINK SO. It's just a bad concept. They do have a way of surviving, though, these bad concepts.
In connection with 1 on the list, here is a question for polling organizations: Who has urinated from an elevated position in a tree? One of my early memories today. A little of a habit then, way back.
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