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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#121  Postby Fallible » Dec 21, 2018 1:51 pm

With regard to your first paragraph, surr, that was not my meaning.
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#122  Postby surreptitious57 » Dec 21, 2018 2:08 pm

I know now that it was not your meaning but it could be interpreted that way from the way that you worded your reply
I did think that maybe that was not what you meant after posting my reply but still had to ask because of the ambiguity
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#123  Postby Hermit » Dec 21, 2018 2:21 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:Off to visit the nephew et al today and it occurs that he does play "fighty" type games, smashing action figures together; swinging sticks around, shooting plastic crossbows etc ad inf...little girls tend not to play that way so much and that points toward a biological component to the violent male.

Try telling that to Serena Williams in the midst of a tirade against some tennis referee, and you might end up picking racket strings out of any teeth you have left. Your nephew is not a sample; he's an anecdote

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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#124  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Dec 21, 2018 2:22 pm

Not to mention, Serena Williams didn't touch the dude.

Are tantrums included under "violence"?
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#125  Postby surreptitious57 » Dec 21, 2018 2:26 pm


Cito should challenge Serena to a game of tennis

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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#126  Postby surreptitious57 » Dec 21, 2018 2:29 pm


Tantrums are not violence as such but they are unprofessional and so should always be avoided
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#127  Postby Cito di Pense » Dec 21, 2018 2:50 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:
Tantrums are not violence as such but they are unprofessional and so should always be avoided


Well, you have all your categories done and dusted, don't you, surr? More power to ya. If it doesn't leave a bruise, then it wasn't violence. I don't mind your definition, but if you want to adopt the idea that men are more violent than women, I don't think you should just make it up as you go along, because then it just seems like you're rehearsing your prejudices.
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#128  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Dec 21, 2018 2:53 pm

I didn't realise this was a discussion about professionalism.
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#129  Postby gobshite » Dec 21, 2018 3:19 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
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I'm just trying to get you to add some spice to your documentation of the obvious.


I didn't document anything. I asked a question. The little curly symbol at the end of my post is the clue there.


I know you did:


Then why did you say I was documenting something? :ask:

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Animavore wrote:Maybe men are just more violent then women because they can get away with it more.
Just like many women can be strict and violent with their kids because they can get away with it. Or older siblings bash younger ones because they can.

I know big, violent men could clear a room if they start shit, but not any women who would get far before they are grabbed in a bear hug and picked up with their legs kicking in the air.

I wonder if we're looking to deeply into this


If we are divorcing male violence from an evolutionary sense, then the next question is - why are men larger (on average) than women?


We're not really conducting a scientific investigation, here


I didn't suggest we were. Do you actually read what you are responding to? :scratch:
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#130  Postby Fallible » Dec 21, 2018 6:11 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:I know now that it was not your meaning but it could be interpreted that way from the way that you worded your reply
I did think that maybe that was not what you meant after posting my reply but still had to ask because of the ambiguity


I posted exactly what I meant - it's absolutely possible. That in no way indicates that it is always, without question, the case.
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If I hear that fucking phrase again, this baby's gonna blow
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Just like my favourite scene in Scanners .
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#131  Postby I'm With Stupid » Dec 22, 2018 4:32 am

surreptitious57 wrote:Neurological [ men have a greater disposition toward sociopathy and psycopathy ]

Is that true, or are they just more likely to be diagnosed with it because when they have it, they're more likely to do something illegal?
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#132  Postby surreptitious57 » Dec 22, 2018 6:08 am

There are 22 classifications of criminal psycopathy and most crimes committed by those that fall within the spectrum are
by men. Psycopaths are wired differently to the general population. They have difficulty in feeling empathy or sympathy
for their victims which is why they can commit their crimes in the first place. They might also have weak impulse control
which is why they repeat them although they can also be very methodical too

Of course psycopathy can also be dormant and not every one with a genetic disposition toward it will become a serial killer
It is also important to state that it is caused as a result of a chemical imbalance in the brain. Now psycopaths are obviously
dangerous but some are also criminally insane so therefore cannot from a moral or legal perspective be responsible for their crimes. Hence why some are detained [ sometimes indefinitely ] in psychiatric units rather than in prison
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#133  Postby Cito di Pense » Dec 22, 2018 7:26 am

surreptitious57 wrote:There are 22 classifications of criminal psycopathy


I don't doubt it. How many categories are there for folks who are obsessing about criminal psychopathy? It's excusable because psychopathic acts are classified as criminal. See, Department of Tautology Department.
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#134  Postby Fallible » Dec 22, 2018 7:50 am

Why did you decide to talk about people 'obsessing' about criminal psychopathy?
John Grant wrote:They say 'let go, let go, let go, you must learn to let go'.
If I hear that fucking phrase again, this baby's gonna blow
Into a million itsy bitsy tiny pieces, don't you know,
Just like my favourite scene in Scanners .
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#135  Postby Keep It Real » Dec 30, 2018 11:19 am

"Uncomfortable before lunch" psycho-sexual explanation for those violent monkey men:

Sex centrally involves the act of penetration, as does shooting, stabbing, punching through, ripping out somebody's heart etc ad inf. It's the male who performs the penetrative act - there's even an old euphamism to that effect circa - "Are you going to impale her on your pork sword?" Then there's this record label - Soldiers VIP?

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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#136  Postby Hermit » Dec 30, 2018 8:02 pm

Sexual penetration as a form of violence? Likening it to "shooting, stabbing, punching through, ripping out somebody's heart etc ad inf."? I always feel sorry for people who think that way.
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#137  Postby Keep It Real » Dec 30, 2018 8:04 pm

Not my thoughts, just the language and some overtly obvious similarity.
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#138  Postby gobshite » Dec 30, 2018 10:45 pm

Hermit wrote:Sexual penetration as a form of violence? Likening it to "shooting, stabbing, punching through, ripping out somebody's heart etc ad inf."? I always feel sorry for people who think that way.


It's like people who think Frodo and Sam are gay, and that the eye of Sauron is a giant flaming vagina. Maybe they're just friends and the eye is a flaming eye.
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#139  Postby Fallible » Dec 31, 2018 11:16 am

The 'violence' of penetration has long been a topic in certain literary and specific feminist circles. I did an English Lit and History degree in the early '90s, respect my expertise in wibble.
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If I hear that fucking phrase again, this baby's gonna blow
Into a million itsy bitsy tiny pieces, don't you know,
Just like my favourite scene in Scanners .
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Re: Why men are more violent than women

#140  Postby aban57 » Dec 31, 2018 12:05 pm

Fallible wrote:The 'violence' of penetration has long been a topic in certain literary and specific feminist circles. I did an English Lit and History degree in the early '90s, respect my expertise in wibble.

i'm pretty sure 8 years on RatSkep gives you much more expertise in wibble that a little degree. Just sayin'.
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